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To: 4Zoltan

Look at the bottom red flower in the arrangement beside the stand. In your top picture that red flower has light showing through the glass of the window all around the bottom of the flower, on both the left and right sides of the flower. Yet in your bottom picture you see the whole flower with no light anywhere around it. If the stand was in the way and blocked out the light then the stand would also be in the way of the flower so you wouldn’t see it either.

And look at the top photo where light from the window shows the stairstep pattern of the stand. In the bottom photo there is light on the front of the stand where that stairstep pattern is. If the light of the window is hidden behind the stand there, then how did that light get on the FRONT side of the stand?

Look at the plaque behind the casket. On the top image the right edge of the plaque is about even with where the lid of the casket goes downward. On the bottom image it’s much farther to the left. To get the relative position to change that much you’d have to have a much different angle for the shot; the top one would have to be a straight-on shot and the bottom one would have to have the camera positioned far to the left and be looking to the right at an angle. But the angle of the stand, the edge of the plaque, and the casket itself are all the same on both photos. To get the angle so different that the plaque covers up the entire leftmost window pane - so that the window that is seen in the bottom photo is the wide middle part of the window that’s behind the big flower arrangement in the top photo - the camera would have to be far enough to the left that it’s basically looking across the side of the stand. But the 2 images of the stand can be laid on top of each other and match perfectly; they are both taken from the same angle. The front of the casket is straight across on the bottom photo, and the top of the lid is parallel to the front of the casket - not distorted as it would be if the camera was looking across the casket. Both of these photos are straight-on shots of the casket, not one of them being an angled shot as would be required for the plaque and window to have their relative placements appear to be so different.

When you look at the video the silvery 2 with the circular blue background - KHON2’s logo - spins around and has streaks of light that emanate out from it from time to time. That’s what we see in the top image. The streaks of bluish light are the logo. But on the bottom photo there are blobs of bright light in the area of the stand that would fall in shadow, with no window light reaching it. Where are those blobs of light supposed to be from?

There’s a spiky plant or something that angles down right above where the pall is on the bottom photo. It reaches all the way over to the edge of the plaque behind it. On the top photo it reaches only to the middle of that rightmost column of printed names - again, showing that the bottom shot would have to be at a different angle in order to get that relative change in positioning, but neither the casket itself nor the stand nor the plaque shows distortion from a different angle.


686 posted on 05/15/2014 1:21:07 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion; cousteausghost
Okay, let's try this:

Here is a screen shot from the KITV video:

Now I'm going to zoom in on the rectangle I drew on the image (notice the vertical mullion that disappears into the top of the legislators' signature plaque):

Now I will zoom in again on the rectangle I drew on this image:

And compare that last zoom to the full screen image of the her hands from KITV:

And that's only by zooming in on the image. Looks to me like for the close-up of the hands, the camera was a little higher and maybe slightly more to the right.

689 posted on 05/15/2014 2:00:14 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: butterdezillion

>> how did that light get on the FRONT side of the stand?

The walls are mainly glass. Besides that there are electric lights overhead and camera crews may have lights as well. There are many light sources and glare sources.

I think the video is more accurate and useful than any perceived discrepancy obtained by comparing frame grabs.

KITV
http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/a-final-aloha-for-state-health-director-loretta-fuddy/23609562

KHON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqCH__JxJhA


693 posted on 05/15/2014 2:51:15 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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