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To: PapaNew
If "facts stand alone", why does science avoid the word "fact" and instead call it "theory"...

Scientists certainly do not shy away from the word "fact"; they use it all the time to refer to... well, to refer to facts. Most scientists would not call a theory a fact; why would they. Similarly most scientists would not call a "fact" a "theory".

This notion of your is basically ridiculous and absurd. As is your assertions that "However truth, which is from the Bible, God's Word, never changes." That's laughably false.

Truth does not need the Bible; Truth pre-existed the Bible and Truth will still be Truth long after the last Bible has crumbled onto dust and even mankind perhaps passed from the scene. Truth is innate in existence. It's the job of science to define and help us understand the truths innate in reality.

159 posted on 02/06/2014 5:30:30 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
Things are not always as they seem my friend. That is why in science, math, law, and life, with more evidence, what was thought to be a "fact" sometimes turns out to be illusory. And oftentimes what is called "fact" is really an interpretation of an observation. Observations are fallible. Again, if you have four people watching a crash at an intersection, you oftentimes get four different accounts of the same event. What is "fact" except an observation? You could say, "It is a fact that's what I saw." That's a subjective fact, something you yourself know you did. However, what you thought you saw may in fact be something different that what you thought. That's objective fact. And facts may change. "Facts" may be here today and gone tomorrow, like Mt. St. Helens.

It's the job of science to define and help us understand the truths innate in reality.

Science does not define truths. It defines THEORIES. Math does the same, so does law. Law takes the best evidence and goes with it. Nothing is 100% certain. But God's Word, the Bible is certain.

Truth is innate in existence.

We've gone full circle. "Existence" is creation by a Creator proved by evidence beyond a reasonable doubt of ID. So before anything was the Creator God. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1). So God was before creation. His Son, Jesus IS TRUTH (John 14:6) and his word, the Bible is truth (John 17:17). Truth never changes, it is an absolute. Science, math, law, life, facts, and theories change all the time. God exists as evidenced by ID and He is the one constant to hold onto because everything else is subject to change.

160 posted on 02/06/2014 7:36:44 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: John Valentine

I would love to know how many people on this thread love to pretend they take the Bible literally, and then claim alcohol is an abomination. If they are naive enough to be that hypocritical and self-deceitful, no amount of talking to them can ever bring them around.


161 posted on 02/06/2014 7:40:41 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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