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To: John Valentine
Things are not always as they seem my friend. That is why in science, math, law, and life, with more evidence, what was thought to be a "fact" sometimes turns out to be illusory. And oftentimes what is called "fact" is really an interpretation of an observation. Observations are fallible. Again, if you have four people watching a crash at an intersection, you oftentimes get four different accounts of the same event. What is "fact" except an observation? You could say, "It is a fact that's what I saw." That's a subjective fact, something you yourself know you did. However, what you thought you saw may in fact be something different that what you thought. That's objective fact. And facts may change. "Facts" may be here today and gone tomorrow, like Mt. St. Helens.

It's the job of science to define and help us understand the truths innate in reality.

Science does not define truths. It defines THEORIES. Math does the same, so does law. Law takes the best evidence and goes with it. Nothing is 100% certain. But God's Word, the Bible is certain.

Truth is innate in existence.

We've gone full circle. "Existence" is creation by a Creator proved by evidence beyond a reasonable doubt of ID. So before anything was the Creator God. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1). So God was before creation. His Son, Jesus IS TRUTH (John 14:6) and his word, the Bible is truth (John 17:17). Truth never changes, it is an absolute. Science, math, law, life, facts, and theories change all the time. God exists as evidenced by ID and He is the one constant to hold onto because everything else is subject to change.

160 posted on 02/06/2014 7:36:44 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

You really don’t know what you are talking about, do you?


162 posted on 02/06/2014 9:01:41 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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