Posted on 01/27/2014 9:05:31 PM PST by Kevmo
It’s Official US Startup Admits to Purchasing Rossi’s E-cat LENR Technology Published January 25, 2014 | By jennifer
A North Carolina based company called Industrial Heat LLC has come out and admitted that it now owns Andrea Rossi’s ecat low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) technology. Industrial Heat has put out a press release in which it confirmed rumors that it had spent $11 million to purchase Rossi’s device.
The New Home of the Ecat an aerial view of North Carolina's Research Triangle
The press release also confirmed speculation that Tom Darden of Cherokee Investment Partners a North Carolina equity fund is a principal investor in Industrial heat. It stated that one of Darden’s associates J.T. Vaughn is the manager of Industrial Heat LLC. Industrial Heat LLC is based in the Research Triangle region around Raleigh, North Carolina where many technology companies have operations. Cherokee’s website describes Vaughn as a Senior Analyst at the firm.
Tom Darden of Cherokee Investment Partners LLC, courtesy Bizjournals
Vaughn said that his company had acquired the intellectual property rights to the Ecat in the press release. Vaughn and Darden were convinced of the Ecat’s authenticity by a report prepared by physics professors Guiseppe Levi, Hanno Essen, Ronald Petterson, Torbojorn Hartman, Bo Hoistad, Roland Pettersson and Lars Tegner. The scientists tested the ecat in December 2012 and March 2013 and observed its operations. Vaughn and Darden also had an unidentified independent expert exam the ecat before investing their money in it.
The press release stated that Industrial Heat has prepared numerous patent applications to protect ecat technology but wouldn’t’ elaborate. The release didn’t say if any of these applications have been filed or not.
“The world needs a new, clean and efficient energy source,” Vaugh said of his reasons for acquiring Ecat in the press release. “Such a technology would raise the standard of living in developing countries and reduce the environmental impact of producing energy.”
JT Vaugn Courtesy Pure Energy Systems and Sterling Allen
The press release stated that Industrial Heat wants to enter into partnerships with other companies, universities and nongovernment organizations (NGOs) to develop LENR technology. It didn’t identify any of these partners or mention any specific uses for Ecat technology.
Predictably and sadly the cold fusion skeptics have already started attacking Industrial Heat. The Gizmodo blog is claiming that Darden and Vaughn were bamboozled and bought a reactor that might not actually work. Typically the skeptics provide absolutely no proof for their accusations they just make them and hope nobody questions their statements. Those who criticize Rossi for not verifying claims turn around and do exactly the same thing.
Tom Darden
Vaughn and Darden seem like hardhead and sensible businessmen who have done their homework. They actually looked into Ecat and got the facts before investing. Gizmodo mentions Rossi’s criminal conviction but doesn’t mention the involvement of distinguished professors such as Guiseppe Levi in the ecat project.
Industrial Heat’s confirmation is very good news, despite the skeptics. It’s the biggest investment so far in cold fusion and it proves there are far sighted businessmen interested in commercializing this important technology. Hopefully Industrial Heat will be able to commercialize the Ecat and looking into other LENR devices such as those at Brillouin.
They would no doubt be aware that he went to jail for tax evasion. Not necessarily fraud, at least per the Rossi wikipedia entry.
So they’re aware he has an obvious questionable character. Do you think that would make them look harder at his demo, or would they just blithely move forward with $20M because he has such a pleasing personality?
Jed Rothwell is a contributing editor on cold fusion for wikipedia
***Not for a while
Drama on Wikipedia Street
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Tue 29 Jul 2008 05:26:03 PM PDT · by Kevmo · 21 replies · 358+ views
New Energy Times ^ | Mar 10, 2008 | Steven B. Krivit
He spent four years in jail for fraud.
***For tax evasion, not fraud.
Not one demo that Rossi did was out of his control and manipulation
***Bzzzt, wrong. The last independent demo, Rossi wasn’t in the room and for a while wasn’t even on the same CONTINENT.
Never mind the fact that it was running when the team got there,
***Not for the 2nd test. This technology is VERY tricky and Rossi tried to reprise the mistake he made when NASA showed up. The NASA demo never got off the ground. So for at least one test, the independent team would have something to measure.
there being Rossi’s ‘lab’ including Rossi’s buddy Levy.
***Rossi wasn’t always buddies with Levi, in fact Levi was very suspicious of Rossi in the beginning. There’s no reason to suspect fraud just because the demo was held in Rossi’s lab.
It must be a struggle to be a Rossi apologist
***I don’t see him being a Rossi apologist. He says he doesn’t trust Rossi. You can trust the scientific results without trusting Rossi. That seems to be above your pay grade.
I would go farther and speculate he’s part of it. While it may not be impropriety, it sure smells like it.
***Nice ever-widening conspiracy theory ya got there.
I think it’s wrong and not how science is done,
***Rossi aint a scientist, he’s an engineer with a product to bring to market. There appears to be a few others like him in LENR, aiming to go into production. Industry is ahead of science at this stage.
Unless you think Rossi re-designed his control system differently for every test.
***There is evidence he’s been upgrading it over the past 2 years.
maybe we should ask Rossi himself why he made such a hash of a simple experiment?
***Because he gives crappy demos, which is what I’ve been saying for a long time now. To believe he’s some kind of super-magician pulling the wool over PhD scientists stretches the boundaries of rationality. Or...is it a conspiracy? Yet again stretching the boundaries of rationality.
Low and behold, a 2011 interview with Levy by Krivit about Rossi. He says that three years before 2011, he heard from Focardi about Rossi. He says he saw the ecat on December 2010.
***Levi didn’t start out as his buddy. He was very suspicious at first.
From the interview you posted:
• He has worked with Focardi on other projects and respects him.
• Levi has been following Rossi and Focardi’s work for three years but only examined the e-cat itself on December 16, 2010. He did extensive testing of the e-cat and apparently believes Rossi’s claims.
• Levi is a member of the US group the Skeptic’s Society and he applied their “baloney detector kit.” (A set of parameters for the detection of fraud developed by the late Carl Sagan) to the e-cat and found it was not baloney.
• Levi said he investigated the e-cat because it is his duty as a scientist. He also wanted to protect the University of Bologna’s reputation from a possible fraud.
• Levi did admit that the e-cat was developed in what he called an “industrial” and not a research environment.
• The January e-cat news conference and demonstration by Rossi and Focardi was done in order to show the scientific community the validity of the e-cat and protect Focardi’s reputation.
• Levi seems to be concerned about Focardi’s reputation and is trying to protect it.
• Levi said other scientists including chemists have examined the e-cat and verified some of the results.
Levi also gave some interesting quotes in response to Krivit’s questions.
When asked why he investigated the e-cat, Levi said: “You must go and look by yourself. It is one of my duties I am a researcher I am paid by public money. Something very important was going on with the name of the University of Bologna. It was my duty to know if it was something real. If it is something real we must make research on it.”
When asked if the e-cat represents a new physics or not, Levi said: “There is not a new quantum mechanics but some new phenomenon.”
Persons who want to make up their mind should definitely take a look at all five parts of Levi’s interview.
Me: He spent four years in jail for fraud.
You: ***For tax evasion, not fraud.
You are confusing Valentino Rossi with Andrea Rossi. The motorcyclist was convicted of evasion, the LENR scammer was convicted of fraud.
I think the blacklight demo was a disaster.
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Posted on January 28, 2014
BLACKLIGHT POWER – THE DEMO THAT NEVER WAS
http://freeenergytruth.com/blacklight-power-the-demo-that-never/
This is what really shits me. Blacklight announce they are having a demo of a revolutionary new power source. Everyone gets excited at the prospect. We wait. And then we wait some more.
Then they do it behind closed doors, say nothing and publish nothing. All we have are some comments that may / may not be from people who were actually there
Who the hell is advising Blacklight of a PR strategy here? Sure way to piss people off in droves.
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RE: [Vo]:BLP Coverage on the E-Cat site
Jones Beene Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:52:17 -0800
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From: a.ashfield
> You seem to have a down on BLP. My take is kinder.
Be kind but not blind. You have not suffered through 24 years of continual
disappointment, hyperbole, arrogance and double talk. When one insists on
controlling information flow in order to raise ever more investment - that
is NOT science, it is hucksterism. Will the video change that assessment?
Actually, I hope so and want to see BLP succeed but those who choose not to
remember the past - are doomed to repeat it. Please remember that for many
years - myself, Robin and Mike were persistent voices of support for Mills
on vortex. We were following this niche before there was a BLP. It was
called HydroCatalysis, Inc. back then. And it looked fabulous.
Mills’ papers were a cut above anything in LENR, his experiments were
professional and he was being published in Fusion Technology, which was more
highly respected than today. The Thermacore work was especially compelling
because they had their own patent, and the work for the Air Force seemed to
validate everything. Mills had money and LENR was operating on a shoestring.
Mills was promising real products, not prototypes.
Things changed for me after two many failed promises and too many missed
opportunities, going back over a decade. Not to mention the sudden
appearance of Rossi, who even with all his baggage was showing something
exciting and even Millsean.
The Capstone microturbine fiasco was particularly catastrophic for Mills
reputation - because of the publicity and interviews, where Randy was
promising a prime energy producing product in six months, and that was
widely circulated. A lot of people thought Mills was the new Dirac at the
time, if not the techno-messiah.
It is not so much that Mills failed to deliver on the Capstone project - but
that it was the tip of a giant iceberg with many more false promises to
come. After a significant number of repeat failures - the suspicion that RM
could be little more than a well-educated PT Barnum had to be addressed.
Now we have the stark contrast with Rossi, who had less credibility at
first, even more scorn from the mainstream, a Barnum personality and trouble
with the law. But when push comes to shove Rossi can deliver - when Mills
can do little more than go silent on past failures.
The demo yesterday had all the ear markings of an old time Tent Revival,
hastily put together for nervous investors by a charismatic but failing
Prophet - who has to reassure his flock that the megabucks already tithed
was put to good work. Pass the collection plate, brother & Praise the Lord.
In fact, there is little indication that there is anything more than new
labels to show for all of that investment. Did I mention that those who do
not remember the past are doomed to repeat it?
Is Rossi really in production? That is the question we should be asking
ourselves today on Vortex - not when is Mills going to have something beyond
vapor ware.
Jones
“...Krivit about Rossi....”
Throughout 2011, Rossi sought credibility for his claim of extraordinary levels of excess heat through scientific and academic validation. In 13 attempts, he and his group tried to demonstrate convincing experimental evidence for their claims. In all attempts, he and his group failed. They have no experimental evidence on which to base their extraordinary-energy claim. They never did.
By: Göran Ericsson and Stephan Pomp of the Division of Applied Nuclear Physics at Uppsala University, Sweden:
In a recent report titled “Indications of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder” [arXiv:1305.3913], G. Levi and co-workers put forth several claims concerning the operations and performance of the so-called E-Cat of Andrea Rossi. We note first of all that the circumstances and people involved in the test make if far from being an independent one. We examine the claims put forth by the authors and note that in many cases they are not supported by the facts given in the report. The authors seem to jump to conclusions fitting pre-conceived ideas where alternative explanations are possible. In general we find that much attention is drawn to trivialities while important pieces of information and investigation are lacking and seem not to have been conducted or considered. These are characteristics more typically found in pseudo-scientific texts and have no place in a technical/scientific report on this level. We also note that the proposed claims would require new physics in not only one but several areas. Besides a cold-fusion like process without production of any radiation also extreme new material properties would be needed to explain what rather seems to be a problem of correct measurement. Therefore, it is clear to us that a truly independent and scientific investigation of the so called E-Cat device, convincingly demonstrating an “anomalous heat energy production” has not been presented in the arXiv report and is thus, to-date, still lacking.
We should have that as a separate thread.
In 13 attempts, he and his group tried to demonstrate convincing experimental evidence for their claims.
***Feel free to post the articles that support your claim.
No, I’m just going off the basic Wikipedia entry for Andrea Rossi. 56 charges, 51 acquittals, 5 convictions of tax evasion. And Wikipedia is notoriously anti-LENR.
Where I do have a problem is where people come on this thread, throw their authority around and expect us to agree and then get p*ssy if we don't and I'm not talking about you Kevmo, I'm talking about WW.
BLP, what the hell happened??? I logged on to their website, not a peep but the press release about the 28th test. Searches on the web led to nothing about the test and there's still nothing. Way to go BLP. This is as bad as McLaren saying their PI hypercar would be the fastest around the ring. They ran the test and then backed off and said they wouldn't release the numbers because the ring is dangerous but Porsche had no problem beating 7:00 minutes in their new 918. McLaren must have the same PR hacks as BLP.
“No, I’m just going off the basic Wikipedia entry for Andrea Rossi. 56 charges, 51 acquittals, 5 convictions of tax evasion. And Wikipedia is notoriously anti-LENR.”
hmmm. Wikipedia has fraud NOT evasion in their write-up.
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