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Does anyone have/use a tankless water heater?
self | December 11, 2013 | knarf

Posted on 12/11/2013 6:43:34 AM PST by knarf

I'm electric tank now and am considering electric trankless, but gas is a possibility


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To: knarf

I had the Bosche 2500 tankless water heater installed and loved it. For me it takes a little longer to get hot water than with a heated water tank but not much longer. Mine has a digital readout for adjusting the temperature.

I recommend going tankless but with gas (propane or natural) and get one that’s slightly larger than you think you need. With mine we could have two showers running at the same time and never run out of hot water. The tankless takes up less room as well.

Unfortunately I moved and have a tank now but I’m remodeling and will definitely go tankless again.


61 posted on 12/11/2013 7:28:21 AM PST by scripter
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To: Kirkwood

I have a 3500W generator hot wired into my panel box (mobile home) and I have practiced with what I can run and what I can’t during a SHTF episode ... 30 gallons of conditioned gasoline in storage, rotated every 4-6 months or so (like, when I feel like it)


62 posted on 12/11/2013 7:28:35 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf

I’m home right now. Will be until just after NYD. We have an on-demand at the house and also a gas one in Australia. Both work just swell. Don’t have to wait when other take a shower for the water to heat up again. I think you’ll like it. As I mentioned, get a BOSCH, Home Depot. Great warranty.


63 posted on 12/11/2013 7:32:52 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Ditter

Holy smokes! You need to install a water collecting system or drill your own water well.


64 posted on 12/11/2013 7:34:19 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Arlis

Not to mention a new flue to handle all that wasted heat going up through the attic.


65 posted on 12/11/2013 7:37:05 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Lakeshark

I have gas, always have. Dirt cheap to operate. Same with Gas Dryers, if you can get used to the whoomph when they start.


66 posted on 12/11/2013 7:38:18 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: SampleMan

Propane. High efficiency gas burners are vented through PVC piping outside the home.


67 posted on 12/11/2013 7:39:29 AM PST by MortMan (We've gone from ‘failure is not an option’ to ‘failure is not an obstacle’.)
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To: MortMan

Good to know, thanks.


68 posted on 12/11/2013 7:41:29 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: knarf

Electric tankless works well in warm areas. Otherwise, I’d look at gas tankless or stay with a tank. The wiring and plumbing for an electric tankless can cost two to four times as much as the heater itself if you have a professional do it. An upgrade in wiring is all but mandatory.


69 posted on 12/11/2013 7:41:42 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
My wife's Filipina ... ANYthing that goes whoomph would have her scurrying for cover, 3 sessions with a shrink and no sex for a month

Of COURSE that's a little exageratted, but the Philippines is (has been) notorious for all kinds of fire/deaths that are the result of electricity or gas.

We have a very old but very large gas oven/range/grill that does not have all it's pilots operating correctly so I have to light the oven ... she won't go near it for the whoomph.

70 posted on 12/11/2013 7:42:18 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: All

We installed an early gas tankless heater in our Los Angeles house about 20 years ago. It worked fine supplying two bathrooms for the next 8 years we lived there.

It really came about because we had no place to legally install a traditional tank heater after a remodel adding a second storey.

The tankless heater installed in the old attic space, which also ended up having short pipe runs to the bathrooms and kitchen.

I’m considering installing one here in AZ, but with a solar main heat source and the tankless only as a backup.


71 posted on 12/11/2013 7:42:30 AM PST by az_gila
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To: knarf

One other thing. In spite of the expense, mine has paid for itself in three years (cost of the heater, electric and plumbing).


72 posted on 12/11/2013 7:44:20 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: smokingfrog

How do you collect water when it doesn’t rain? the city of Houston would incarcerate me if I started drilling a water well.


73 posted on 12/11/2013 7:48:18 AM PST by Ditter
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To: SampleMan

Understood...I was going that he is electric now.


74 posted on 12/11/2013 7:48:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: knarf

We have a Bosch 125B-LP tankless water heater that we have been using for about 12 years now.
The output is 117,000 BTU/Hr.
It required a 3/4” black pipe gas line, and is vented straight up through the ceiling and out the roof, approximately centered in the house (not an outside wall).
Our’s uses a small pilot light and igniter. The new ones require no gas to light.
It requires about 3/4 gal/min water flow to stay lit, so you cannot just dribble water out of a sink faucet.
The only problem I’ve had with it is that about every 5 years the LP pilot injection tube needs replacing as the orifice plugs up and the pilot will not stay lit.
I’ve never had it flushed, nor have I ever done any yearly maintenance on the unit.
We can be running the dish washer, clothes washer and both showers without a problem.
It does take a minute to get hot water to the farthest faucets/shower, but after that it’s endless hot water.

The unit cost us about $700 back in 2001, and I’ve put about $100 worth of parts in it since then.

I feel it was quite a good investment.


75 posted on 12/11/2013 7:50:11 AM PST by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: knarf

You can’t do much better than a gas tankless water heater.


76 posted on 12/11/2013 7:52:46 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: grania

Rinai seems to be the most common around here- haven’t seen any other brands.


77 posted on 12/11/2013 7:56:28 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Dixie Yooper
They get cleaned/flushed every year or 2. The only trouble I have had with them is the control box and it is there so you can change the temperature. I don't change the temp so when one went out I had the control box removed.

I had 2 installed because our house is very long and the kitchen is on one end the bedrooms on the other. Even with my old gas WH it took forever to get hot water in the kitchen. This is much better.

We had a HUGE gas waterheater and it started to leak. If it had been in the attic I would never have known until it exploded and ruined walls and ceilings. The tankless is in the attic now and I used the former WH closet for other things.

78 posted on 12/11/2013 7:58:13 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

On a hot day, you can probably collect 100 gallons or so of condensate water from your air conditioning system.

On the well, just tell them you’re putting in a geothermal HVAC system when you apply for the permit.


79 posted on 12/11/2013 7:59:01 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
My father had a water well drilling business in Houston in the 40’s and 50’s. I can just imagine the noise and the mess, my neighbors would have me arrested. We have multiple water wells on the ranch, I know what one costs, I will just keep praying for rain and paying my water bill!
80 posted on 12/11/2013 8:05:18 AM PST by Ditter
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