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Just Dial 911? The Myth of Police Protection
The Freeman ^ | April 1, 2000 | Richard W. Stevens

Posted on 11/17/2013 12:02:26 PM PST by Q-ManRN

Underlying all “gun control” ideology is this one belief.” “Private citizens don’t need firearms because the police will protect them from crime.” That belief is both false and dangerous for two reasons.

First, the police cannot and do not protect everyone from crime. Second, the government and the police in most localities owe no legal duty to protect individuals from criminal attack. When it comes to deterring crime and defending against criminals, individuals are ultimately responsible for themselves and their loved ones. Depending solely on police emergency response means relying on the telephone as the only defensive tool. Too often, citizens in trouble dial 911 . . . and die.

It’s not just that the police cannot protect you. They don’t even have to come when you call. In most states the government and police owe no legal duty to protect individual citizens from criminal attack. The District of Columbia’s highest court spelled out plainly the “fundamental principle that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen.”

Government lulls the public into trusting it to provide everything, takes away the people’s means of providing for themselves, and then claims it has no duty to provide after all. Noting the fatal irony in the “gun control” context, James Bovard has written that “government has a specific, concrete obligation to disarm each citizen, but only an abstract obligation to defend the citizen.” “Gun control;” Bovard notes, “is one of the best examples of laws that corner private citizens—forcing them either to put themselves into danger or to be a lawbreaker.”

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KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; guncontrol; police; secondamendment; selfdefense
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I wanted to re-post this important article. Following a gun battle between thugs near my house, I began to investigate the legal expectations of the police. Being raised in a liberal family, I was shocked to discover that the police have no legal duty to protect me. I realized that I was legally responsible for protecting myself.

Please read this excellent article and give it to people who think that dialing 9-1-1 is going to keep them safe. The author also has a book available on Amazon.com.

1 posted on 11/17/2013 12:02:26 PM PST by Q-ManRN
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To: Q-ManRN

Dial 911-—and die waiting.

Stay safe, stay armed. Illegal in your state? You have to take your chances, I guess.


2 posted on 11/17/2013 12:06:06 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Q-ManRN

Or you can hire a security system who will dial 9-1-1 for you (i.e., they’re pretty worthless).


3 posted on 11/17/2013 12:06:50 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Q-ManRN

Better yet, just give them the majority decision in Castle Rock v. Gonzales, (2005). The case involved a woman with a restraining order demanding to know why, when she called the police to tell them to go get her children from her estranged husband, the police did nothing and her children ended up dead.

The SCOTUS found that even with a court order, the police have no duty to protect. Never mind someone who just up and calls 911.


4 posted on 11/17/2013 12:07:36 PM PST by NVDave
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To: basil

Stay safe, stay armed. Illegal in your state? You have to take your chances, I guess.


Yep, stay alive illegally or get legally dead.


5 posted on 11/17/2013 12:14:36 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Q-ManRN

Sometimes it needs to happen to you, and then you get it. I’m just a white suburban mom who grew up in lib NY. I became an NRA member after I was robbed at knifepoint. The whole thing was long over by the time I got to dial 911.


6 posted on 11/17/2013 12:17:55 PM PST by ToastedHead (.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Where I live (when not in Oz) it’ll take a deputy almost 45 mins to get to us if they’re not busy somewhere else. We don’t have a problem with that. Gives us plenty of time to take care of things .......


7 posted on 11/17/2013 12:19:19 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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It’s also interesting why they have the logo on their cruisers that state: “To Protect And To Serve” ....like who?


8 posted on 11/17/2013 12:20:20 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

Whom ?


9 posted on 11/17/2013 12:23:33 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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The movie American blackout was a joke in that it showed police driving around. In a real blackout/looting/riot, the police would be protecting selves first.


10 posted on 11/17/2013 12:27:43 PM PST by jonose
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To: SkyDancer

“Where I live (when not in Oz) it’ll take a deputy almost 45 mins to get to us if they’re not busy somewhere else.”

Sounds good unlike our Hollywood department. The shooting at Vine and Sunset 2 years ago where the cops finally showed up was 45 minutes...and they were 3 blocks away. The only thing cops are good at are donuts and chalk lines.


11 posted on 11/17/2013 12:29:56 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Home invasion for one. We live on six acres of heavily wooded terrain six hundred feet up the side of a mountain on Washington’s Olympic Peninsula. We back up to almost 200 sq. miles of national forest. There’s meth labs up in the hills along with other things. There are maybe six deputies that cover the county.


12 posted on 11/17/2013 12:30:54 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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So these guys won't protect me or my family, but they want to continue these "no knock" midnight raids on people's homes......the same people who pay their salaries via property taxes.


13 posted on 11/17/2013 12:31:22 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: max americana

Heard you can’t protect yourself in Kaliphornistan. Only gangbangers can.


14 posted on 11/17/2013 12:33:07 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: basil
"Illegal in your state? You have to take your chances, I guess."

Governments are worthy only of the loyalty and respect they show their citizens.

15 posted on 11/17/2013 12:36:00 PM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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“To Protect And To Serve”

for far to many in law enforcement is to protect their little tin god positions and to serve their political bosses. Law enforcement today has in large part adopted their organization as family. They cover and lie for each other thus the rule of law and innocent victims mean squat. Oath??? Hah! There really aren't enough of the good ones to even try to count.

16 posted on 11/17/2013 12:39:29 PM PST by drypowder
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To: basil

Even in its best form, the idea of police protection was tenuous because of response time. Joe Biden, who recently falsely promised that rapes would all be prevented by the appearance of brawny cops, never got this memo, or else just lied - again.

But the liberals now have another secret weapon, illustrated by their war on so-called “stand your ground” laws. Their weapon: Run.

I mean redeploy.


17 posted on 11/17/2013 12:49:24 PM PST by DPMD
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To: Q-ManRN

First of all, the kind of big government needed to protect citizens from criminals would be too evil and too colossal for even a semblance of freedom to survive. Second of all, cops with guns are proving to be as bad or worse than criminals with guns. We put our lives at risk anytime we involve cops in anything. Free people are better off taking responsibility for their own protection.


18 posted on 11/17/2013 12:58:13 PM PST by pallis
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To: Q-ManRN

Even if the police were obligated to respond to “911” calls, it still wouldn’t matter in the vast majority of emergencies. It’s not like there is going to be a manned police car staged in every neighborhood waiting for a 911 call to come in.


19 posted on 11/17/2013 1:03:22 PM PST by SamAdams76
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As I've always said, the police and the fire department are the second responders. I am the first responder.
20 posted on 11/17/2013 1:04:48 PM PST by Doug Loss
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