Posted on 10/17/2013 12:28:59 PM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
A plan used in the 1950s to build a system of towns and villages in the northern Negev was based on a theory developed in the Third Reich, to be used for populating an Eastern Europe cleansed of Jews. Did Zionist planners not know, or not care?
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The actual words to the refrain of "Es Zittern die Morschen Knochen" were, heute hört uns Deutschland, und morgen die ganze Welt (today Germany hears us, and tomorrow the whole world shall). Apparently, anti-Nazi propagandists replaced hört (hears) with gehört (belongs).
Interestingly, after the war, the song's writer, Hans Baumann, became a critically-acclaimed author of children's books, many of which were translated into English and became bestsellers in the US.
You can listen to the song on Youtube:
Es Zittern die Morschen Knochen (The Rotten Bones are Rattling)--Friedrich Ahlers (c. 1936)
I doubt it. The Nazis did not really like big cities. They wanted open spaces far more than they wanted big cities. Notice this very interesting quote from Rosenberg (Myth of the Twentieth Century). He was all worried about planning troubles in the big city, “One needs only to look at the troubles of New York, which touch upon the very vital nerves, to know at once that all is at stake. Things have now gone so far that the erection of multilevel streets has been proposed. Roads for cars have to be laid under the houses and pedestrian stairways arranged above these in passages. Bridges must span one side of the street to another. An entire complex of stairs, passageways and permanently artificially lighted thoroughfares, is planned. The new American three zone law allows a higher development of houses. New designs surpass anything known before, as we see in the work of architects like H. Ferris, R. Hood, M. Rusell and Crosell. The aim of all these technical efforts, which reveal perfect freedom of movement as the foundation of their world view, is a heap of mammoth stone pyramids in which all human life must become desolate, rigid, and must finally perish. Such a foundation for a world view must be cleared away. Only then will the path be clear for the surpassing of technology through technology itself. The great city created ease of transport. It must die from this ease of movement if we do not wish to perish racially and spiritually. The Polis created Greek culture. The small town, the middle sized city made every volkish civilization in Europe. The expanding vision of the former individual peasant grasped the idea of a state, without losing itself into infinity. In this alone could an organic cultural structure arise.”
One cultural element that has always served Judaism well is the belief that nobody has a monopoly on good ideas, that a good idea is just as good if it comes from a hated enemy as it is from a close friend.
Actually, the Interstate Highway System was built with the military in mind. Many stretches of road were deliberately designed to serve as airstrips.
After the war, more than a few Nazis used the same argument you are using now. More to the point, in spite of Christaller’s alleged ambivalence on Nazis and Jews, he is still at the heart of the holocaust. More than likely he would have known about the ghettoes, concentration camps and death camps, and perhaps even assigned other planners to be in charge of where they were to go, etc. As a kid, he used to draw up maps on his own and fill in the empty space with his own utopian ideals on how the world should look.
But they were not built to revive the ancient Roman empire, and I do not equate the ideals of the American military with that of Nazism. Meaning that we initially built our military to protect us from folks like the fascists ...
You are missing the point. I do not believe that the Central Place Theory is a good idea. In fact, I think it is a really bad one loaded with totalitarian impulses and instincts.
I hope and pray that some seed of Freedom has been planted in the manure that is the obama reign of terror.
There is—if you’re Christian.
This was.
Like it or not, you have to admit the Nazi’s were a large part of the reason we made it to the Moon. It’s sad that von Braun just “went along to get along” in Nazi Germany but the man went on to do some fantastic things for humanity and science.
Oh okay well I know Fritz Lang got the idea from Metropolis from visiting New York City but his wife at the time develop the story in pulp comic called Metropolis
Three words, “Werner Von Braun.”
Made for a great song by Kraftwerk.
There could also have been a deliberate use of good ideas by bad people for good purposes to help the Jewish people.
I’m aware of the Madagascar plan, but I’ve never heard of a Nazi plan for settling the Jews In Alaska. Where did you get that?
My only point is that his ideas about geography and settlement patterns that support a major town and district have nothing to do with the Holocaust. I doubt the Israelis would have approached settling this district differently had they known about his service with the Nazi government.
I just checked- turns out it wasn’t a Nazi plan, it was a 1940 American proposal that was presented to Congress but never came to a vote.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slattery_Report
Those totalitarian impulses and instincts seem to be independent of central place theory. Its theory seems to be focused on logistical distribution in a “tabula rasa” (empty slate) area, for maximum efficiency at first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_place_theory
I would imagine this as a formative model only, that once in place would adapt to inequality over time. Instead of urban planning, it is regional planning.
As someone noted in the US, the new major cities in the western US all look like Dallas. An urban center surrounded by suburbs, which is itself surrounded, more or less, by a freeway, that bisects the metro area at places. This is a more American model, whereas central place theory is more European.
These European models can be seen in Germany, France, England, the Netherlands, etc. That it is associated with the Nazis matters little outside of Israel.
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