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Putin Makes a Grand Offer to Help Obama? Has Anyone Figured This Out?
9/10/2013 | Nikos1121

Posted on 09/10/2013 3:06:04 AM PDT by nikos1121

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To: EBH

Yes, I believe you have the real story behind this.

The US under Obama has become but somebody else’s piece in play on the chessboard. Maybe still worth more than a pawn, perhaps a knight, in a game being played by two other sides.


41 posted on 09/10/2013 3:59:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nikos1121

Speaking of funny...have you seen this? haha

http://www.caintv.com/kerry-assembles-the-big-fancy


42 posted on 09/10/2013 4:02:56 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: 9YearLurker

When I posted this I truly did not know. Then posting #13 made it clear to me. It’s nothing more than who controls the world’s energy and in particular gas routes to Europe via Syria.

Assad stands in the middle of this, and he has Putin and the Chinese to back him. We have no business being there, but the Saudi’s have leverage over us, and they’re making Obama dance.

Syria should be the safest place in the world once Assad beats back the rebels, and now I’m all for him doing so. It’s the best possible out come for Christians, Jews even moderate Muslims if there is such a thing.


43 posted on 09/10/2013 4:03:01 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: al_c

Obama is a clueless spectator. He’s not that smart. But I think now that he is the perfect puppet for the Saudis and everyone else over there. Romney would have upset the apple cart for them.

No, Obama is the perfect puppet. It’s all becoming very clear. I’m wondering if Rush or anyone will expose this. I’m wondering if anyone will read the excellent commentary here this morning.


44 posted on 09/10/2013 4:05:56 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: nikos1121
In fact, the more I read #13 the funnier it gets. Putin truly pulled a fast one here, and the American Media is jumping all over it.

I know! It was never about chemical weapons and now the liars here cannot admit that it was not really about that. So so funny. The media in the dark are all happy that the weapons can be turned in.

Sadly Putin is really just saving his bank account and his energy empire here but it is funny.

45 posted on 09/10/2013 4:06:11 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Putin and Assad want to stop the Qatar pipeline from crossing Syria.”

BINGO!


46 posted on 09/10/2013 4:06:15 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: nikos1121

Yes, a reasonable person (or government) would think there is an underlying reason for all the concern in Syria, with the natural gas pipeline being a prime candidate. However, I said ‘reasonable’ and that has to also include some dependable means to control the use/access and revenue generation from said pipeline.

Yeah, depend on a coalition of multiple Muslim rebels that includes a large contingent of Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda-backed rebels. If you think about it, it makes about as much sense as what one might think a reason for toppling Libya (to control its oil output) where reports are that oil production has all but stopped due to rebel control.

I just don’t buy it - natural gas - For Putin, it’s about natural gas, but it isn’t for Obama. This administration is doing about all it can do to reshape the image of our economy, and doing damage control on the dozen or so Obama government agency scandals. The ‘credentials’ of his administration’s prime players are PATHETIC. These people aren’t logical plotters, they are ideological plotters - and that means their reasons for acting aren’t what a reasonable person might assume.


47 posted on 09/10/2013 4:07:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: bonfire

LOL


48 posted on 09/10/2013 4:07:50 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: nikos1121

I think you are absolutely right. Obama never mentioned diplomatic efforts at all. From day one it was about punishing Assad for USING the chemical weapons against the children. He was all over the map on this.


49 posted on 09/10/2013 4:07:58 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: 9YearLurker
The only thing left for America's allies, (who have now, collectively been thrown under the moving bus) is to form some sort of secret alliance to face Iran...alone.

Israel and Egypt are already doing this along the Sinai-Gaza border. Just as Obama has tossed Egypt into the trash heap, so has he left Israel alone, to deal with Iran, and very soon. There is intense cooperation between Israel and Egypt and the poor little diddums HAMAS in Gaza are eating gravel.
Jordan, Saudi Arabia and a host of other Arab states are on board with Egypt and even Israel right now because they all know, America is simply not there. America has proven to be totally unreliable at this critical juncture in history.

Obama has voted present for his golf and vacations but absent as the leader of the USA and our allies, especially the Brits shied away from supporting him. Only the Frogs seemed to want a good fight which is strange, considering the French prefer surrendering to fighting...that's how bad it is right now.

50 posted on 09/10/2013 4:08:55 AM PDT by Netz
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To: EBH
I also found this which blew me away. Maybe others knew this but I did not.

"Qatar also just happens to be a command hub for the Pentagon's US Central Command, headquarters of United States Air Forces Central, No. 83 Expeditionary Air Group RAF, and the 379th Air Expeditionary Wing of the USAF. In brief Qatar, in addition to owning and hosting the anti-Al-Assad TV station Al-Jazeera, which beams anti-Syria propaganda across the Arab world, Qatar is tightly linked to the US and NATO military presence in the Gulf."

51 posted on 09/10/2013 4:09:12 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: nikos1121

Some other places I read that after what happened in Japan EU is more than ever interested in natural gas.


52 posted on 09/10/2013 4:09:59 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: nikos1121

Did John Kerry really “blunder”? Or was this calculated and planned by Kerry? (the giving up the chemical weapons remark)

Nothing surprises this anymore about this bunch.

If someone told me in the early/mid 80’s that by 2013 Pravda and British news sources would be more accurate than the MSM here and an ex KGB (Russian version of Chuck Norris) would be looking like a statesman, I never would have believed it.


53 posted on 09/10/2013 4:11:05 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: MarMema

After what happened in Japan, many older nuclear plants in the EU were shutdown or are slated to be shutdown.


54 posted on 09/10/2013 4:12:39 AM PDT by EBH (America is not judge, jury, and executioner for the world.)
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To: nikos1121

Obama’s survival to continue the destruction of America is in Putin’s interest.


55 posted on 09/10/2013 4:14:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. N)
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To: Gaffer
For Putin it is about power. For years he has bullied other countries into "voting" his direction with their heat during the winter.

For us it is about not letting him continue to become more powerful. So let's say Putin supplies all the heat to an EU country and a global issue is out there. The country may have to choose between letting their citizens go without heat or joining us on the issue.

Make no mistake, Putin looks good today but he is not a nice person at all. He who controls the energy source of a country controls most of what they do.

Putin wants to take down NATO. Since the days of Izzy, it has been east-west power struggles.

56 posted on 09/10/2013 4:15:24 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: nikos1121

If the us media starts spinning it that Putin caved to obama, then we can expect t to hear more from Putin.


57 posted on 09/10/2013 4:15:25 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: machogirl

No, he blundered. We work for Qatar and the establishment of their pipeline.


58 posted on 09/10/2013 4:15:32 AM PDT by EBH (America is not judge, jury, and executioner for the world.)
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To: EBH

I agree.


59 posted on 09/10/2013 4:16:21 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: EBH

Thanks for your input.


60 posted on 09/10/2013 4:17:18 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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