Posted on 09/03/2013 4:18:38 PM PDT by Kartographer
The fall-out from a grid-down scenario would be absolutely devastating, as noted by a spokesman for the Center for Security Policy who recently responded to the potential for EMP capable weapons being deployed over the United States:
And experts forecast if such an attack were a success, it effectively could throw the U.S. back into an age of agriculture.
Within a year of that attack, nine out of 10 Americans would be dead, because we cant support a population of the present size in urban centers and the like without electricity, said Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy.
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There's also a chance that the Detroit Lions will go undefeated this year and win the Super Bowl.......
Alright, my bet is on the sun.......
All of the things you are mentioning are profoundly complex and require infrastructure and secure transportation systems (you're going to need parts for that generator).
Consider all he abandoned, bullet-scarred office buildings to be found throughout the Middle East and in places like Kosovo and Bosnia. Those were once new, thriving communities (the people who erected those buildings didn't do so for target practice!)
I have only to make a trip to the local grocery store or the local Walmart to become quite aware of how close this nation is to savagery.
The scenario that is being described in this article has already happened in 1959 - an event known as the "Carrington Event" ... if it happened today you would literally find yourself in the Dark Ages tomorrow.
re: “I think people are wildly overestimating when they speak of the world being thrown into the dark ages. There is just too much knowledge already out there to let us fall too far.”
I agree with you. If an EMP event occurs, the technology and the knowledge to fix things is still there - how long this would take, I don’t know.
Would such an EMP take out all our power plants, i.e. the generators within these plants that produce the electricity - would it destroy the structures (transformers, cables, etc) that carry the power to cities? What’s the difference with an EMP attack as opposed to cities and regions losing power due to storms or overloads?
Hell I’ve never been on a plane.
Sorry...1859... what’s a century between Freepers!?!? :O
I suppose this is the next red flag ops. They always let it slip what they are up to.
Is that Congresswoman Trent Franks? His wife may be in for a surprise.
However, if 90% of the world dies, it is hard to see how we maintain the level of technology we already have. We may know in general how to build things, but a lot of the specific knowledge would be lost. A lot of knowledge is online now, which would be lost. But most of the actual, specific knowledge to make something is not even online, it is kept in people's heads.
NASA engineers investigated bringing back the Saturn rocket after the Shuttles were retired back in the 90's or so. They still had all the engineering drawings of the rockets, and written documents. But they found that it wouldn't save any money instead of redesigning everything from scratch, because there is so much knowledge that was carried around in the engineer's heads, who were then retired, that to spend the effort to figure all that out would save no money over just starting over.
That was in a continuously operating organization. If the population of NASA were to be cut by 90%, and then try to keep doing what they are doing, they couldn't. The same would happen in every organization. Eventually there would be so much knowledge lost that there would be no choice but to lose a couple hundred years of progress.
That is why I liked being in Boy Scouts. I earned every merit badge there was.
I had to build electric motors from scratch. I had to learn how to start a fire without a match. How to find edibles in the forest. How to find my way out of the deep dark woods with no compass, no idea where I had been taken and dropped off. How to use a bow and arrow, how to use a rifle, how to clean it. How to build bridges out of rope and tree limbs. How to make water drinkable.
BE PREPARED. Knowledge is one of the most important assets one can have.
My neighbor and I were down at the dam just below our houses a while back talking about this sort of thing.He has some serious knowledge as head of maintenance in his factory.
We decided that the hard part of putting in a small generator would be getting the old gear out of the millrace. That thing has to weigh several tons. Its probably 15 feet across by 10 or 12 inches thick solid steel. Course like my neighbor said, they put it in there 150 some odd years ago and used either horses or steam power to do it.
-Congresswoman Yvette Clarke (D-NY), Senior Member House Homeland Security Committee
The Brain Trust of the Science Community...
Most won’t survive without electricity? Heck, nobody will survive without water.
Got water?
Some of us can build a generator without relying on store-bought stuff.
Some of us have lived as mountain men for years at a time, at a mid-1800s level of technology.
I know for a fact that I can do it, because I have.
/johnny
Heck, you ain’t missing much, especially since the gropers took over.
“A comet as large as Hale-Bopp (with a nucleus some 30 kms in diameter), swinging very close around the sun could trigger cosmic ray-generating shockwaves large enough to initiate a complete global electromagnetic meltdown.” This is suggested by Eichler, who is an astrophysicist at Israels Ben-Gurion University.
Comet Ison is not as large as Hale-Bopp.
However, here is Homeland Security and defense and the others having a drill on November 13, 14, and Comet Ison swings around the sun on November 28. Are those two related? I have no idea.
I can't stop what might happen at any time, natural or man made by Hussein or other enemies, but I can and will deal with it.
How much food is delivered to cities, all sized cities, by trucks which require gas or diesel pumped in from a far and then pumped into the trucks via electrically powered pumps? How long will the current supply of food in any citiy last without trucking? Laugh all you want, the scenario is horrific to contemplate, and quite real.
Tax credits are needed for SOLAR GENERATORS.
Supposedly an EMP can burn up the precious generators and transformers. Which is a problem be cause there are not many spares and I am not sure if we even make them in the US anymore.
A maximum of two days but if power is out, riots will start in the inner cities before the first day is over and there won't be enough police to stop it, the police will see they are completely outnumbered, and go home.
Or use the bags from the 6 and 8 pack paper towel rolls come in. Instead of tossing those use them for storage by taping them up securely.
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