Posted on 07/11/2013 12:21:54 PM PDT by Jacquerie
Lift rock. Crawl back.
You know this isn't DU, right?
Thanks for posting. I LOVE having a voice of (real) hope among the “freeper defeatists”. There are lots of those - hard not to be defeatist with the daily downers of new ways the leftists are destroying our wonderful country. This idea truly could be the spark that sets off some new fires of patriotism and action to rebuild our country.
I can’t wait to see the book, and hope he even has an order of priority, as to what amendments we should try to go for first. It seems that if you can just shift a few foundation stones, the whole edifice of communist oppression might just come tumbling down. (Just like they’ve destroyed some of our conservative foundations by destroying marriage and the family, installing income tax so many women must work and cant raise civilized kids, changing the way Senators are elected so they are more susceptible to big money influence, etc.) We need a plan and an order to go about this, and need to make sure we are all working towards the same goals.
Anyone know when his book is supposed to come out?
I’m quite certain that would have to be item number one on the list. Without state representation in the Senate we will continue with the status-quo.
In reality the seventeenth should be thrown out for their not changing the length of service from six years to two reflecting the term of the peoples representative compared to those representing the states. That alone should nullify the amendment. Not to mention turning the Founders vision on it’s head. Once the states were no longer represented, it was Katy bar the door. The government against the people, a clear example of no win. It was the people through the states that gave the federal government the right and power to exist, and when the states gave up it was all over.
Following the restoration of state representation in the Senate which is definitely a bridge to far in today’s world, then comes the request for an article V convention, which would be the final nail in the Republican form of government coffin IMHO. If no one is paying any attention to the Constitution now, you can bet your last dollar those in power will be paying attention when they are given carte blanche with an Article V convention where they rule the show. Extremely dangerous move IMHO unless you are holding a royal flush, and 20 divisions of crack troops. And even then...
I don’t really want a civil war...
I want to be totally unaffected by their idiotic ideology and policies.
They can go be liberals/socialists/progressives, whatever - but “over there”, in that state, and leave the rest of us alone.
It wouldn’t take but 10 years for their society to totally disintegrate whilst ours would thrive.
How right you are!
Well said. Release date is August 13th.
IIRC, he has eleven amendments. That may be too many to digest and fight for. I hope I’m wrong.
Anyone who doesn’t like Levin is a DU’er? get a life.
Let's try to alter the make-up of Congress by adding new states to the Union.
If we split California into two states, one that contains Los Angeles and San Francisco, and another that contains everything else, we can add two more Republican Senators to Congress.
If we split Texas into two states, we can add another two Republican Senators to Congress.
We might even try splitting Florida into two states, possibly adding two more Republican Senators, although Florida is slowly turning purple.
Currently, Republicans have 46 out of 100 seats, or 46% of the votes. Adding two Senators for California2 and two Senators for Texas2 yields 50 out of 104 seats, or 48% of the vote. If we throw in a secure Florida2 as well, it becomes 52 out of 106 seats, or 49% of the vote.
After this, we can look to increasing the cap of 435 representatives in the House, too.
There are just too many people these days to be represented by a body whose capacity was fixed in 1911, when the national population was 92 million people. The population is now 310 million people. We need more members in the House to keep up with the growth in population over the last 100 years.
-PJ
The main thing is for conservatives to agree on the order of what is the absolute #1 priority, win that battle, then on to the next and next. Some of those will have much different ripple effects (like dropping a pebble in a pond, vs. dropping a boulder) of how much improvement we’ll get for each one. What we don’t want would be all the different states working on different things, where the effort is diluted and nothing gets accomplished.
Conservatives have been starved for a real leader to give them something to unify them and a goal to work toward.
So you despise the Pauls, Mark Levin, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and even Snowden.
Your posts consist almost entirely of insults, not arguments.
If you’re not a troll, you might as well be one.
There’s something not quite right — maybe we need to Trayvon you, metaphorically speaking.
Where I disagree, as I touched on in my post, I think repeal of the 17th is doable. It is certainly necessary.
I also understand your concern regarding a runaway convention. Another thread today expressed the same fear.
First, as Mark explained, a state initiated convention would be limited as Congress is, to amendments.
Secondly, whatever amendments emerged would be subject to ratification by three-fourths of the states.
But let's say you are correct as to an open, carte blanche convention. Another poster today thought the constitutional convention of 1787 was illegal because it went outside the Articles of Confederation. We are comparing similar situations, yes?
Well, if that is the fear, the states could be prepared for it as they were in 1787. Back then, delegates from NJ and IIRC, DE were limited BY STATE LAW from considering any change that denied equality of state suffrage in Congress. That is the reason each state has an equal number of senators.
My point is, for instance, my state of Florida in a future convention could limit our delegates to decide on a limited number of specific amendments and how to vote on them.
Rats rapidly form packs as necessary to achieve their nefarious goals, while pubbies historically scatter like cats at the first sign of trouble.
Yes, a leader is needed, so are soldiers to wage the battle. Those soldiers are us.
I fail to see what more Republicans in Washington will do to solve what ails this country. They’re responsible for a good portion of what’s wrong with it in the first place.
The 16th and 17th Amendments helped propel us along the road to an evil Socialist democracy. Both must be repealed.
I have most of Mark's books and listen to him most days. I look forward to this one.
I feel whatever Mark proposes will be a long shot. We need a plan C. Plan C (restoration after Collapse) is for the various states to openly coordinate a Constitutional plan to deal with an economic collapse caused by the Federal government.
The Feds have a plan and it is Marshal Law.
The States need to actively have in place proposals to quickly dissolve ALL unconstitutional aspects of the Federal government.
The States must have a coordinated plan to repel what will become a truly tyrannical government.
Part of the States plan can include the Amendments Mark will propose.
What is distressing is the likelihood that there will be no coordination and violence and chaos will ensue.
With all the crap that is even disgusting to liberals going on, turning enough states completely red should be possible in theory next Nov.
RATS are making some fatal, stupid mistakes lately.
From Buckeye McFrog:
“A major and very credible Conservative voice has given-up on fixing this through elections. THATS the story!”
Nailed it.
Wait a month to see if, as I suspect, Mark will offer real structural changes to correct some fundamental mistakes.
I am positive he will call for repeal of the 17th Amendment, other changes, and how to achieve them.
As our Framers knew, as long as our Congress is entirely derived from the popular vote, our descent into despotism is inevitable.
Tell me of your efforts.
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