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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Guenevere

All this exchange is going no where because they have nothing...Gezzz

How desperate can this prosecution get??


601 posted on 07/10/2013 8:16:27 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NautiNurse

Well, if the prosecution brings it up, isn’t it then allowable for the Defense to bring it up on re-direct?


602 posted on 07/10/2013 8:16:58 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Jeff Winston

Just popped in to say UNBELIEVEABLE about not allowing text messages! If the defense had time, they’d depose and bring in the participants in the text discussions to verify that they were indeed “real.” Prayers for GZ!


603 posted on 07/10/2013 8:17:16 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: XenaLee

it seems like he has opened the door asking about those text messges


604 posted on 07/10/2013 8:17:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip

“Guy is citing Jeantel as their authority for the last 2 minutes”

Hopefully the jurors have already disregarded everything that idiot said.


605 posted on 07/10/2013 8:17:37 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: NautiNurse

He should have said “You mean the phone with all the porn, texts about fighting and illegally purchasing a gun?” THAT PHONE?”


606 posted on 07/10/2013 8:17:40 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: JPX2011

What they have been using ARE INCOMPLETE CELLPHONE RECORDS


607 posted on 07/10/2013 8:17:44 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: dragnet2

“Got punched (as he claims) = cheap shot!”
That is not good form for a prosecutor.


608 posted on 07/10/2013 8:17:50 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: moehoward

Precedent put forth supporting the admissibility of the text messages.

Judge still says not allowed.


And the saddest part of all of this is that the jury may not know about
her rulings when they are told to come in with a verdict.


609 posted on 07/10/2013 8:17:51 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: JPX2011

Well, if the prosecution brings it up, isn’t it then allowable for the Defense to bring it up on re-direct?


I wonder if they did it on purpose. I’m still not sure if the prosecution is not trying to backhandedly help the defense.


610 posted on 07/10/2013 8:18:11 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Abigail Adams

That is all he has left is prayers.


611 posted on 07/10/2013 8:18:20 AM PDT by sport
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To: onyx

juries forget all that lawyer acting as jerk stuff and get to the fundamentals. (attempting to conceal is an exception)

Jurries will look at the physical first and then the testimoney and then experts and the family testimony to character last.


612 posted on 07/10/2013 8:18:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: XenaLee

Exactly —

He is asking him why he didn’t consider what he is restrained by the court to consider.


613 posted on 07/10/2013 8:18:38 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Toespi

Yeah. Maybe grounds for appeal. But The def is so far ahead of the game at this point......


614 posted on 07/10/2013 8:18:56 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: patriotspride
She is doing everything she can to put the burden on the jury.

My worry is that she leaning so far over to side with the defense that the jury has to be wondering what they are missing.
615 posted on 07/10/2013 8:18:59 AM PDT by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: NKP_Vet

Definitely. Totally noticeable when they approach the bench. What a little worm.


616 posted on 07/10/2013 8:19:03 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: don-o

Haha sucks to be a newbie!! My last post took an hour...

So I have been flippin back between fox hln and CNN and online pages and I’ve heard and read more than a few times that Dennis root is a questionable witness for MOM. That it isn’t his best choice to our him on the stand... I dunno why...

Tell momma martin to wipe that stupid smug grin off her face!!!


617 posted on 07/10/2013 8:20:16 AM PDT by veteranzd
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To: onyx

Onyx- thanks for checking!!! Love the site!! I’m still learning the basics!! U guys r awesome at helping

Appypuppy- I don’t remember.. I’m I. California so it’s only 7:40 here but it took an hour or so... Ughh


618 posted on 07/10/2013 8:20:16 AM PDT by veteranzd
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To: All

Has anyone heard anything about the CRUMPster making an appearance today?? If so I hope thy have actual evidence against him, cuz as we’ve seen so far everyone is just lieing to the court anyways. We need some cold hard evidence... Does the defense have it??


619 posted on 07/10/2013 8:20:16 AM PDT by veteranzd
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To: All

ROOT is awesome!! Tellin that punk how it is.. Do your homework about me...


620 posted on 07/10/2013 8:20:17 AM PDT by veteranzd
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