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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: EnquiringMind

Exactly. He’s also got the Obama chin-up pose down to a “T” (pun intended).


581 posted on 07/10/2013 8:12:12 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: RummyChick

Witness is very composed and calmly giving complete and expansive answers.


582 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:02 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: txmissy

Great comment on WFTV blog:

11:11

Comment From Guest
Remember,GZ never said ahole and f-punk. He SAID ahole”s” and f-punk”s” which is the PLURAL form of the words.Meaning MORE than one.


583 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:05 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: moehoward
Precedent put forth supporting the admissibility of the text messages.

Judge still says not allowed.

Un-frickin'-believable.

Reversible error.

I hope this is the end of her career.

584 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:16 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: SE Mom

:...Prosecution getting zinged by the witness. .LOL”
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This witness OWNS the prosecution, and they are too dumb to know it.


585 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:17 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: XenaLee

Sooo....all of those pedaphiles that the FBI and local police have sent to prison due to porn found on their home computers need to be immediately released since...someone ELSE could have downloaded those pics. And terrorists that have been imprisoned for plotting to attack the US ....discovered by the NSA via their phone conversations should ALSO be immediately released, since....anybody could have snuck in and used their phones while they weren’t looking.

Nelson is full of $hit.


Excellent summation


586 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:29 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: JPX2011
Thank-you....

We're all boiling over with the unfairness of this trial....

587 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:33 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: RoosterRedux

Guy managed to elicit from Root the clearest and best articulation of what Z’s use of the two phrases actually meant. What emotions he was actually expressing. Nobody had gotten there before. Thanks, dude.


588 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:51 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: JPX2011

Once again, the prosecution is going no where..zip..

Charge this attorney with public annoyance.


589 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:51 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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About time.

Half what this dolt is saying is mischaracterizing the evidence.


590 posted on 07/10/2013 8:14:00 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Guenevere

The prosecutor must not realize that he’s coming across like a smart-arse punk himself.


591 posted on 07/10/2013 8:14:54 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: ArmstedFragg

I missed that —


592 posted on 07/10/2013 8:14:58 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JPX2011
"Do you know when Trayvon Martin's phone went dead?"

Can you be more specific? I don't know what you mean by "went dead."

Interesting--bringing up Trayvon Martin's phone records. The same records the defense is unable to use.

593 posted on 07/10/2013 8:15:06 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

meaning the usual perpetrators that cruised his neighborhood looking for opportunities.


594 posted on 07/10/2013 8:15:11 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: onyx

bookmark for later


595 posted on 07/10/2013 8:15:22 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

5. Re. the judge’s bias - Is it a matter of this: She knows that Zimmerman is innocent, she has to give every advantage she can to the State (with her UNbelievable rulings) so that the public (mainly TM supporters) are less likely to cry “Foul!” ?

I believe the judge may know Z is innocent, but she is still trying to railroad him, in my opinion.


She is doing everything she can to put the burden on the jury.


596 posted on 07/10/2013 8:15:26 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Uncle Chip

This is illogical as hell to me. Guy is asking Root about Trayvon’s cell phone records (like texts). You know, the ones that the Defense is NOT allowed, per da Judge, to use as evidence???

Bizarro World Trial Day 22.


597 posted on 07/10/2013 8:15:57 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: JPX2011

He’s all pissed off because MoM is a foot taller than he is, an being 5-5 means he got the hell kicked out of him in grade school. Been taking it out on everyone sense.


598 posted on 07/10/2013 8:15:57 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: moehoward

Cellphone records.......now I think that is a mistake for the prosecution...I wouldn’t go there for anything. Defense cross.....if there were the potential for hidden cellphone texts .......


599 posted on 07/10/2013 8:16:04 AM PDT by Toespi
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Guy is citing Jeantel as their authority for the last 2 minutes


600 posted on 07/10/2013 8:16:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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