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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: hoosiermama
Yes it can be over diagnosed like fibromyalgia...

I actually have a diagnosed case of fibromyalgia. I was in so much pain, it hurt to brush my teeth or put on clothes and I had to hold on to something to be able to walk.

A neurologist said that is what it was and gave me Amitriptyline and in three days I was outside washing my car. I now take two pills for fibro and a sleeping pill because I couldn't sleep, either, and I couldn't function without them.

It probably is over diagnosed, but not in my case. I was shocked to find out that is why I was such a mess.

421 posted on 07/10/2013 7:26:18 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: longtermmemmory

If George is found guilty, is there any way he can stay out of jail while waiting on the appeal?


422 posted on 07/10/2013 7:26:19 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Hoodat

Does anyone have a link that will work on android device. I would really like to see todays action.


423 posted on 07/10/2013 7:27:20 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: BunnySlippers

Comment From Melissa in Texas
Bill, it seems to me that this case is interesting/different because of the way it is being presented. USUALLY, the States case is backed up with evidence, testimony, police reports, forensics, etc... and the Defenses’ position is to try to poke holes and show reasonable doubt as to the States’ case... In my opinion, this case seems to be flipped in that respect. The Defenses’ case is all corroborated by the evidence, testimony and forensics and the State is seemingly trying to poke holes and show reasonable Doubt.


424 posted on 07/10/2013 7:27:21 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: veteranzd

idk


425 posted on 07/10/2013 7:27:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: zeugma

the judge’s statement that any 7 year old could get past a double password, was ignorant at best.

As for authentication, they arent going to get cooperation from TM’s friends, but you’d think they could ID some of the texts as at times TM was using that phone.

Most glaring thing is he was on that phone all day and night of his final fight.


426 posted on 07/10/2013 7:27:38 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Betty Jane

She has sustained every objection of the state with this witness. The state should sit back and STFU they have been given every advantage in this trial.


427 posted on 07/10/2013 7:28:09 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: veteranzd

I think the servers are starting to choke from heavy Freeper load. I’ve tried to post replies and have not been able to get to reply page. Set my preferences to 50 replies per page and am (for now) moving along OK. I may have to drop that back to 20/page if it gets worse.


428 posted on 07/10/2013 7:28:13 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: veteranzd
Why does it take my posts like 30 minutes to actually post after I submit???

You are a newbie and as such, I believe your posts are moderated for a time. Welcome to Free Republic.

429 posted on 07/10/2013 7:28:45 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: onemiddleamerican

Here it comes....dud you have any information re TM experience in fighting was? Objection........sustained


430 posted on 07/10/2013 7:29:16 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Uncle Chip
Defense is delicately setting up the altercation scene ahead of the animation with Root as an expert witness. Persecution is objecting for most every piece of the puzzle.

Poor GZ--described as no physical prowess. No athletic abilities.

431 posted on 07/10/2013 7:29:39 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: don-o
It's odd. MOM clearly said yesterday that the sick lady was his last witness.

He indicated it was the last witness OF THE DAY, and he did not say the defense rests. He also indicated he would have more witnesses today and the defense MIGHT rest today. Looks to me like the judges ruling may have prolonged this trial for another day, maybe two.

432 posted on 07/10/2013 7:29:40 AM PDT by calex59
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To: veteranzd

Your posts should start to speed up now. I just checked your posting history and see that you’re now either at ten or over the magic number of ten, which means that your posts are not longer under review.


433 posted on 07/10/2013 7:30:39 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: veteranzd

You are new. It takes a few posts before the admin stops pre-screening all your posts. How many, I don’t know.


434 posted on 07/10/2013 7:30:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Williams

I’m late to the party, but could that phone be one of the ten million or so freebies?


435 posted on 07/10/2013 7:31:01 AM PDT by masadaman
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To: veteranzd

You posted that message at 9:25AM?


436 posted on 07/10/2013 7:31:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Toespi

This guy has also helped support the timeline shown on the video.


437 posted on 07/10/2013 7:32:13 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: knarf
In some ways this witness is delivering an early version of MOM's summation in that he is helping the jury form an opinion based on the substantive evidence given and ignoring the emotional and trivial questions raised by the State.

MOM and West have been absolutely brilliant in their use of witnesses.

438 posted on 07/10/2013 7:32:54 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: longtermmemmory

You left out:

Jury finds not guilty.

Riots.

Federal charges for the same events. Mostly black jury.
Zimmerman gets convicted.


439 posted on 07/10/2013 7:33:13 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: onyx

Remember the obvious: TV hosts like NG are “controversialists” who exploit lurid situations to milk viewers’ emotions, to get ratings, to sell ads, to make mo’ money, to get paid more, and be a “celebrity”. A “case” in their hands is simply a wrestling match where they don’t even have to pay the wrestlers. Justice, truth, the public good, etc., has nothing to do with it.


440 posted on 07/10/2013 7:33:27 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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