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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: cuban leaf

Exactly. Great points, Cuban.

Reading the transcript simply doesn’t give the sense of this conversation acting out over time complete with movement, pauses, sounds, wind, etc.

But, it is clear that Zimmerman was ‘tracking’ Martin prior to the “he’s running.” And the dispatcher had no problem with that.

It’s only after he exited the truck to comply with the request to locate TM that the dispatcher told his not to follow. GZ complied.

If that gives TM the right to then beat GZ up, then the prosecution has its head where the sun don’t shine.


301 posted on 07/10/2013 6:47:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: txmissy

she is probably concerned about the prosecution LEO wannabe angle and does not recognize the force continuum term


302 posted on 07/10/2013 6:47:20 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: snarkytart

She’s following orders. Political pressure to convict GZ because white Hispanics won’t riot; blacks will.


303 posted on 07/10/2013 6:47:28 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Toespi

Just gives every little black thug in this country a right to kill a cracker.


And gives every cracker in a “diverse” neighborhood motivation to get CCW.


304 posted on 07/10/2013 6:47:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: VRWCarea51

Can’t any member of that State’s Bar file a complaint for their behavior?
***

Don’t know about Florida, but in NC if you are aware of an ethical violation you are REQUIRED to advise the State Bar.


305 posted on 07/10/2013 6:47:53 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Toespi

as long as the thug is willing to end up like St. Trayvon.

I’ve always said I’d rather be tried by 12 than carried by six unfortunately in Florida, juries on less than capital cases are composed of six. In this case, the jury may end up carrying GZ if they find him guilty of anything beyond improper parking.


306 posted on 07/10/2013 6:48:16 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: NautiNurse
Neighborhood Crime Victims

LOL.

How about "Neighborhood House Hiders"

307 posted on 07/10/2013 6:48:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: RummyChick

I’ll opinion that failure to let the pictures and texts in is a mistake of grand proportions. Including it and letting it get seen by those calling for Zimmerman’s head could have taken the wind out of their sails and calmed down their demand for justice, It seems Trey got the justice due a violent druggie person. Now that information will not be as widespread and lack of its presentation will not help calm unjustified anger.


308 posted on 07/10/2013 6:48:55 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: cajungirl

http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/776.032

http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/776.012


309 posted on 07/10/2013 6:49:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: xzins
It’s only after he exited the truck to comply with the request to locate TM that the dispatcher told his not to follow. GZ complied.

Isn't it more accurate to say that GZ left his truck to get a street name that the operator had requested from him?

310 posted on 07/10/2013 6:49:42 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: xzins

Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV
He says his older brothers used to beat up on him but after getting his training they left him alone. #Zimmermanon9


311 posted on 07/10/2013 6:49:43 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Marcella

:)

Dearest you, Marcella. Did you know that you can watch a replay of the trial every night right here http://www.wftv.com/categories/news/crime-law/?


312 posted on 07/10/2013 6:49:49 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: NautiNurse

Will the defense’s last witness be Vietnam vet and retired judge Robert Zimmerman! Would love to see how Bernie tries to question his truthfulness.


313 posted on 07/10/2013 6:50:01 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: RummyChick

If “someone” was on the receiving end of ground and pound...


314 posted on 07/10/2013 6:50:04 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: Mouton

So GZ taking a class to lose weight that involves fighting = relevant.

TM on pot (”he looks like he’s on drugs or something”) and bragging about fighting is not relevant?

June 4 is when the State turned over this evidence. Judge used the inability to authenticate as her excuse when the State’s delay was the exact reason they couldn’t track down the people on the other side of the text and ask them if this was, in fact, TM sending the texts.


315 posted on 07/10/2013 6:50:30 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: rolling_stone

that information has been out there...public has seen it...not going to change those that want to riot and kill Zimmerman

although, I am sure there are some that haven’t seen it


316 posted on 07/10/2013 6:51:05 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV
Root says he was brought in as an expert for grand jury investigations involving force. #Zimmermanon9


317 posted on 07/10/2013 6:51:48 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: TigerClaws

Yep. A clear violation of GZ rights to a fair trial and defense.


318 posted on 07/10/2013 6:52:36 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: don-o
That should be FR Etiquette 101. I was griping the other day about non use of italics in quotes, but I now understand why that is a hassle for mobile users. Any character that indicates a quote is better than not providing context for the new post.

If there's any question, you can simply click on the "To xxx" link, and when you're done, you can do a back action to get you back to where you were. That's two or three clicks, vs. all the gyrations needed to copy, paste, and italicize the comment.

And italicizing also forces you into an HTML mode, which makes it more difficult to provide links to external content, as well as forcing you to use the < p > or < br > tags to clarify one's post, and ward off any "paragraphs are your friends" comments.

319 posted on 07/10/2013 6:52:37 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: RummyChick

I don’t think the texts have been out there about his fighting..


320 posted on 07/10/2013 6:52:45 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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