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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: sheikdetailfeather
He did not know about sequestration

There's that damned sequestration again...

Oops, never mind.

2,061 posted on 07/10/2013 2:27:30 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Rushmore Rocks
Today is the first time I’ve posted to any of these wonderful threads, but I’ve read every single post proffered and have followed the trial very closely.

Then you have read probably more than we have who have been posting. It's hard to read and post and not miss reading a post.

2,062 posted on 07/10/2013 2:27:47 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: fatima

thanks, i will do that.


2,063 posted on 07/10/2013 2:27:50 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

OK. West’s objections were simply because he was not finished. The proper time to ask “the official question” is after the Defense has finished with all the witness, and before resting?

On another track...is the persecution going to do a long rebuttal, or is it done already?

I know. Already answered. I am sorry if I seem behind, but I have not been able to fully engage today and I am not in command of the day’s events (like I ever can!).


2,064 posted on 07/10/2013 2:27:50 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Toespi
Her dishonor is playing the meek and mild role.

That's why honest citizens have a problem with our justice system!
2,065 posted on 07/10/2013 2:28:03 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian *born again believer in Jesus Christ* Black Man!)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

No it is how she started her response to the ruling she was getting ready to make. “The court is very, very, very, very concerned. (4 very s)


2,066 posted on 07/10/2013 2:28:03 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Cyber Liberty

two of the three rebuttal witnesses are out

we are waiting on one tomorrow..and if he is admitted then MOM is going to bring a slew of witnesses..

indications are that Judge is not going to allow it.


2,067 posted on 07/10/2013 2:29:05 PM PDT by RummyChick
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Cross reference:

Newly Released Documents Detail the Dept of Justice’s Role in Organizing Trayvon Martin Protests
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3041219/posts


2,068 posted on 07/10/2013 2:29:11 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Toespi

Ah yes, I heard that. Didn’t she make a silly joke about it as well?

Dang, I thought you had detected some fear in the old lard butt.


2,069 posted on 07/10/2013 2:29:37 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: tioga

So, IIRC, Shirley Zimmerman was sequestered at some point, and she is George’s family, right?


2,070 posted on 07/10/2013 2:29:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
I wonder why Tracy Martin, the gansta, is not under scrutiny on the sequestration rule?

The Martins were given divine dispensation by the judge to stay in court all the time.

2,071 posted on 07/10/2013 2:29:52 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: RummyChick

I think the sidebar was for the def and prosecution to agree winner gets the dummy....


2,072 posted on 07/10/2013 2:30:16 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Cyber Liberty

There is the question of the one witness who MAY be available to testify tomorrow. He was law enforcement and had arrested George before. MOM said it was just to get in a prior arrest. They will argue this tomorrow if the guy shows up. Don’t know what will happen yet.


2,073 posted on 07/10/2013 2:30:28 PM PDT by tioga
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To: All

Looks like the entire TM side of the courtroom just pulled a Judge Debra and marched out. Plans and prep for the Friday festivities, perhaps?


2,074 posted on 07/10/2013 2:30:33 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Nita Nupress

Cross reference:

Newly Released Documents Detail the Dept of Justice’s Role in Organizing Trayvon Martin Protests
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3041219/posts
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Watching ‘The Five’ at the moment and it’s dawning on me just how incredibly obtuse Dana Perino is. Her ignorance of the Zimmerman case does not slow her down a bit in putting forth her uninformed opinions on the case.


2,075 posted on 07/10/2013 2:31:19 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: tioga

Of course, their testimony is not affected or tainted by what they heard. . .only witnesses with no family ties can be affected.


2,076 posted on 07/10/2013 2:31:55 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: MHGinTN

She is the defendant’s family, not the victim’s.


2,077 posted on 07/10/2013 2:31:59 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Cyber Liberty

State is done rebuttal,closing arguments tom.Goes to jury Friday.This is what the Judge said.


2,078 posted on 07/10/2013 2:33:08 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Uncle Chip

It should be on all TV stations. If you have no TV, try the websites of news stations. I would bet it will be there.


2,079 posted on 07/10/2013 2:33:40 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: fatima

Did I understand the charges of manslaughter or aggravated assault will be argued tomorrow?


2,080 posted on 07/10/2013 2:34:36 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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