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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: machogirl; All

Lol any one could have wrote that... Check it’s authentication!!! Lol


2,021 posted on 07/10/2013 2:16:24 PM PDT by veteranzd
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To: sheikdetailfeather

<< WFTV Poll: How do you think the jury will find in the George Zimmerman case?
Guilty of 2nd degree murder (5%)
Guilty of lesser charge if offered (18%)
Not Guilty (77%)
Don’t know (0%) >>

Thank you, sheik! Wow. 77%.


2,022 posted on 07/10/2013 2:16:48 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Toespi

I’d bet at least 50% of the witnesses have watched some of the trial on TV. Further, I’d bet ALL of the witnesses have watched at least SOME TV during the year prior involving the issues of this trial. This is a silly concern. It made sense in the 1950s, but it is not applicable to 2013. That cat left the bag years ago...


2,023 posted on 07/10/2013 2:16:53 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Nita Nupress

I was just thinking that.She doesn’t want the protesters outside of the court when the verdict comes down.Speed it along.I see a perfect storm coming .


2,024 posted on 07/10/2013 2:16:54 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: meyer

Actualy not that hard to find her home address lawyer born in 1953 and lives in a $1 Million + dollars house ... hmm wonder if SHE has had to hide in a closet because of Home invasions???


2,025 posted on 07/10/2013 2:17:03 PM PDT by IsThereAnyJustice
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To: rolling_stone; All

HEADLINE NEWS SAYS MOM WILL HAVE NEWS CONFERENCE SOON.


2,026 posted on 07/10/2013 2:17:25 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Heck, the jury has probably watched it.


2,027 posted on 07/10/2013 2:17:33 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: House Atreides

I would love for her phone/ipad/laptop go off and make some noise and have the Judge admonish her. (Corey)


2,028 posted on 07/10/2013 2:18:26 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Marcella

>>HEADLINE NEWS SAYS MOM WILL HAVE NEWS CONFERENCE SOON.

It would be great if he asked for calm. No one needs to die over this case.


2,029 posted on 07/10/2013 2:18:46 PM PDT by struggle
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To: Toespi

West is radiating hate. Her Honor seems a tad nervous talking to him.


2,030 posted on 07/10/2013 2:19:20 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: NautiNurse
Prolly Skyping with DOJ.

Planning festivities?

2,031 posted on 07/10/2013 2:19:24 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Marcella
Why doesn’t MOM ask to throw out the Martin’s testimony then? Weren’t they also in court prior to testifying?
2,032 posted on 07/10/2013 2:19:25 PM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: BOBWADE

They are allowed by Florida state law as I was told.


2,033 posted on 07/10/2013 2:20:54 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: sheikdetailfeather
thanks, I voted when it popped up. didn't see where the results were.

I had to say "not guilty" even though jury could could do differently.

I can't see how it cannot reasonably be self-defense. Handgun was legally present. There doesn't need to be a fight, to be in fear of life. Once hit a single time, it can assuredly be enough.

If during struggle Trayvon sits up or leans back (prosecution tried pushing possibility that Trayvon was "retreating" if he leaned back) it's too late. Gun at that point had been the most serious issue for both.

Gun HAS to be used at that point.

I'm not certain a jury composed of women will fully comprehend that the gun, once discovered by Trayvon to exist, had to be used against Trayvon, or Z would be in huge risk of being disarmed and shot with his own weapon.

Expect that issue to be raised on defense summation. Z's attorneys have avoided directly speaking of that aspect during trial that I know of.

Prosecution has an argument ready to counter that, and will get the last word. O'Mara will likely be able to anticipate counter-argument?

2,034 posted on 07/10/2013 2:20:56 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Raebie

Her dishonor is playing the meek and mild role.


2,035 posted on 07/10/2013 2:21:03 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: rolling_stone
I wonder when the last time someone threw her a bone?

lol-- Would YOU throw her one? I Know I wouldn't!

2,036 posted on 07/10/2013 2:21:53 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: machogirl; william clark; All

oops, would NOT have posted it


2,037 posted on 07/10/2013 2:22:13 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: BOBWADE
Why doesn’t MOM ask to throw out the Martin’s testimony then? Weren’t they also in court prior to testifying?

At the beginning, a special rule was made that they could stay in court all the time. Judge wouldn't do that for the Zimmermans. They had to stay out.

2,038 posted on 07/10/2013 2:22:41 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: BOBWADE

“Why doesn’t MOM ask to throw out the Martin’s testimony then”

The ONLY REASON the State wants Donnelly’s testimony stricken from the record is because his credentials are impeccable and he said, as he was crying, that the voice was Zimmerman’s.
The jury must not be allowed to hear him.


2,039 posted on 07/10/2013 2:23:24 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: machogirl

sounds like she’s ruling for the defense on this. she’s a POS anyway


2,040 posted on 07/10/2013 2:23:52 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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