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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: TADSLOS
she doesn't want to be late for the opening ceremony:

NAACP National Convention “WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED”
2013 Annual Convention, July 13 – 17, 2013, Orlando, Florida

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1,701 posted on 07/10/2013 12:49:45 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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Even the morons on WTF-TV say the Prosecution is screwing up in their questions to Pollock.

Will the Judge allow the Prosecution to continue trying to impeach the witness, when they are supposed to be restricted to only rebuttal ?


1,702 posted on 07/10/2013 12:49:47 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Fawn

Not if the jury follows the law. Mere suppostion to suggest it’s possible TM could have been backing away from the fight. There is not a shred of evidence that was the case. It’s just making stuff up. In the absence of such evidence, reasonable doubt always goes to the defendant. It isn’t up to the defendant to prove that TM wasn’t backing up. It’s up the state to prove he was. Of course they can’t do that. They have nothing but fairy tales.


1,703 posted on 07/10/2013 12:50:30 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: UCANSEE2

What do you think. Judge will allow but if defense tried that one, they would get a sustained.


1,704 posted on 07/10/2013 12:51:16 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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Mantei’s first question has to do with marketing a GZ training program.

Answer — absolutely not

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1,705 posted on 07/10/2013 12:51:20 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
"Is this the first time you have been cross examined by a jerk?????"

*snicker*

1,706 posted on 07/10/2013 12:51:26 PM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Abigail Adams

shame on all of them! We have just taken yet another turn for the worst. It’s all too frigtening!


1,707 posted on 07/10/2013 12:51:29 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Solson

not that there would be anything wrong with that lol


1,708 posted on 07/10/2013 12:51:34 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Bill S..when asked if it could be a cheap shot..grudgingly says one could argue it is..he doesnt want to say it


1,709 posted on 07/10/2013 12:52:40 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: viaveritasvita

Picture of front and back of head, layout of the complex and the larger neighborhood.


1,710 posted on 07/10/2013 12:52:57 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.kogym.com%2Fzimmerman.htm&oq=cache%3Awww.kogym.com%2Fzimmerman.htm&aqs=chrome.0.57j58&client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&espv=1&ie=UTF-8

Looks like a media info request form....


1,711 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:02 PM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Uncle Chip

SO.... will this case hold the WORLD’S RECORD for number of SIDEBARS during trial, and during rebuttal, and it still isn’t done ?

The morons on WTF-TV are discussing whether this was a CHEAP SHOT by the state.


1,712 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Uncle Chip

And pardon my Hillary-esque moment, but “What difference does it make”?

How he markets his trade is not relevant to THIS CASE.


1,713 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:14 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: txmissy

Maybe she is in a hurry due to news leaking out that Holder and company financed busing in the original Justice For Crayon protesters and that Obama has connections with Crump going back to 2006.

Holder wants this already over and wants a win.


1,714 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:23 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

yep


1,715 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:25 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

thx!


1,716 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:28 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: UCANSEE2
Will the Judge allow the Prosecution to continue trying to impeach the witness, when they are supposed to be restricted to only rebuttal ?

at this point you have to ask?

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1,717 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:33 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: txrangerette

Thank you...I pray you are right and the jury is not trying to find something.... anything...to hang him on.


1,718 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:50 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: SteveH

WTFTV commentator to legal analyst BS

Was bringing tZ’s martial arts trainer’s web site up a cheap shot by the prosecution?

BS

I don’t care how the judge rules. It ain’t proper rebuttal


1,719 posted on 07/10/2013 12:53:59 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Uncle Chip
WFTV pundits are trying to split hairs between Cheap Shot by the persecutors and an Act of Desperation.

Incredible!

1,720 posted on 07/10/2013 12:54:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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