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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: cuban leaf
arrogant ignorance

Excellent turn of phrase.

1,161 posted on 07/10/2013 10:45:46 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Marcella
I know a guy who was a "witness" at a grand jury summons. I (attorney) showed up with him and the detective didn't like that very much.

It was uneventful (a good thing), but they were professional when I was there.

1,162 posted on 07/10/2013 10:46:06 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

of course race baiters are coming in
NAACP convention coming up


1,163 posted on 07/10/2013 10:46:28 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: MrEdd
"How silly all those racist dead white guys were."

The Founding Fathers were working above their paygrade.

One thing I know - I'm picking up "lawyering" which is two steps below "housewifery".

"Trial on - Peace out" <8^)

1,164 posted on 07/10/2013 10:46:35 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Toespi

I can hardly eat, as I am so emotionally involved in this case. I can not imagine what GZ is going through, sitting and listening to motion after motion, that could save him, be denied. His life in shreds, TM dead but untouched. I will not be able to handle verdict watch.


I wonder if they were going for an emotional outburst from Z or his attorneys.


1,165 posted on 07/10/2013 10:46:35 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: RummyChick

Newly Released Documents Detail the Department of Justice’s Role in Organizing Trayvon Martin Protests


1,166 posted on 07/10/2013 10:46:47 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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Declaration from City of Sanford coming into evidence


1,167 posted on 07/10/2013 10:47:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Eva
Eric Holder’s DOJ was involved in organizing the protests against George Zimmerman and even paid for the protesters to be bussed in from Daytona Beach that forced the temporary stepping down of the of the Sanford Chief of Police.

There is a post upthread with a link to another FR thread about that info. Disgusting, though not a surprise in light of the bias against the defense in the courtroom.

1,168 posted on 07/10/2013 10:47:18 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

America wants its riot.


1,169 posted on 07/10/2013 10:47:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: RummyChick; C. Edmund Wright

Copy of your tweet here


1,170 posted on 07/10/2013 10:47:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
But he didn't...we know that from the shirt and the wound.

You watch...the anti-gun activists will start....outlaw "one in the chamber"

1,171 posted on 07/10/2013 10:47:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sheikdetailfeather

No doubt, financed by the DOJ


1,172 posted on 07/10/2013 10:47:55 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Fresh Wind

Or....skittles would have gone home and grabbed a gun...


1,173 posted on 07/10/2013 10:48:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: cuban leaf
What did you make of that little colloquy the Judge had with GZ regarding his Fifth Amendment? Is it just cya based on legal precedent?

Here she is doing it again. Putting him under oath now asking if he understands his rights. Objection is overruled.

1,174 posted on 07/10/2013 10:50:06 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: House Atreides
Documents Obtained by Judicial Watch Detail Role of Justice Department in Organizing Trayvon Martin Protests

Document: DOJ Community Relations Service was deployed to Sanford, FL, “to provide technical assistance for the preparation of possible marches and rallies related to the fatal shooting of a 17-year-old African American male.”

Washington, D.C. – Judicial Watch announced today that has obtained documents in response to local, state, and federal records requests revealing that a little-known unit of the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Community Relations Service (CRS), was deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman.

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JW filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requested with the DOJ on April 24, 2012; 125 pages were received on May 30, 2012. JW administratively appealed the request on June 5, 2012, and received 222 pages more on March 6, 2013. According to the documents:

From a Florida Sunshine Law request filed on April 23, 2012, JW received thousands of pages of emails on April 27, 2012, in which was found an email by Miami-Dade County Community Relations Board Program Officer Amy Carswell from April 16, 2012: “Congratulations to our partners, Thomas Battles, Regional Director, and Mildred De Robles, Miami-Dade Coordinator and their co-workers at the U.S. Department of Justice Community Relations Service for their outstanding and ongoing efforts to reduce tensions and build bridges of understanding and respect in Sanford, Florida” following a news article in the Orlando Sentinel about the secretive “peacekeepers.”

In reply to that message, Battles said: “Thank you Partner. You did lots of stuff behind the scene to make Miami a success. We will continue to work together.” He signed the email simply Tommy.

Carswell responded: “That’s why we make the big bucks.”

Set up under the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the DOJ’s CRS, the employees of which are required by law to “conduct their activities in confidence,” reportedly has greatly expanded its role under President Barack Obama. Though the agency claims to use “impartial mediation practices and conflict resolution procedures,” press reports along with the documents obtained by Judicial Watch suggest that the unit deployed to Sanford, FL, took an active role in working with those demanding the prosecution of Zimmerman.

On April 15, 2012, during the height of the protests, the Orlando Sentinel reported, “They [the CRS] helped set up a meeting between the local NAACP and elected officials that led to the temporary resignation of police Chief Bill Lee according to Turner Clayton, Seminole County chapter president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.” The paper quoted the Rev. Valarie Houston, pastor of Allen Chapel AME Church, a focal point for protestors, as saying “They were there for us,” after a March 20 meeting with CRS agents.

Separately, in response to a Florida Sunshine Law request to the City of Sanford, Judicial Watch also obtained an audio recording of a “community meeting” held at Second Shiloh Missionary Baptist Church in Sanford on April 19, 2012. The meeting, which led to the ouster of Sanford’s Police Chief Bill Lee, was scheduled after a group of college students calling themselves the “Dream Defenders” barricaded the entrance to the police department demanding Lee be fired. According to the Orlando Sentinel, DOJ employees with the CRS had arranged a 40-mile police escort for the students from Daytona Beach to Sanford.

“These documents detail the extraordinary intervention by the Justice Department in the pressure campaign leading to the prosecution of George Zimmerman,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “My guess is that most Americans would rightly object to taxpayers paying government employees to help organize racially-charged demonstrations.”

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1,175 posted on 07/10/2013 10:50:06 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: hoosiermama

I think I messed up that post. I think I was posting someone retweeting his tweet but now cant remember


1,176 posted on 07/10/2013 10:50:07 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Rush Limbaugh was reading Judicial Watch docs about the DOJ fomenting racial unrest in Fla. on his radio show today. Community organizing in the Injustice Dept.


Another Obama scandal breaking today. Good.


1,177 posted on 07/10/2013 10:50:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Is the defense done?


1,178 posted on 07/10/2013 10:50:22 AM PDT by Toespi
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What is this Judge doing now? Why does he have to say whether or not he’s going to testify when their case is not done yet. This Judge is pressing here.


1,179 posted on 07/10/2013 10:50:56 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: AppyPappy

We will have some rioting, but more than that we will see open season on whitey by the savages in individual and group attacks. Even more so than all the black on white hate crimes we see now.


1,180 posted on 07/10/2013 10:50:56 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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