Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread

The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

[RummyChick]

Talking head - text message most fertile grounds for appeal

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

Get off my lawn!

[hummingbird]

“Be right back!”

How about "That's all Folks?" Can't remember the cartoon guy who says "That's all Folks" but the music will be in my head - a.l.l.d.a.y.l.o.n.g.

[eastforker]

Porky Pig!

[onyx]

Placemark

[Toespi]

I pray that the jury is strong, because all along I have this feeling that the jury is looking for any excuse to convict GZ (due to fear).

You have to factor in the white guilt card.

[hoosiermama]

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[don-o]

uh... didn’t you say you had some lawn to mow, Mr. Thread Proctor?

What's the off topic for the afternoon. Cats? We can talk about cats - post kitty pix and everything.

(Too damn hot to mow for long - got to take it in small pieces)

[Fawn]

If they have a retrial, more info will be out on what exactly happened....making a more informed jury.

[DrDude]

I agree completely. What I was saying is that this Judge(Nelson) should have ruled on that issue well before the trial started. Not after the State rested. The ME called by the State was a flop and would have been horrible if asked about the marij(tox) report.I have never known a Motion in Lime regarding State’s evidence, to be heard after the State’s case. This severely hindered the defense.
The Prosecurial Misconduct regarding the texts, photos is stunning. No way for the defense to fix it. Where are those texts and photos to IMPEACH State’s witnesses? It would have been nice to have Detectives explain same.

[RummyChick]

talking head

Judge did MOM a favor...because his skilled questioning got the answers he wanted and might have more effective from the last witness

[JPX2011]

LOL! I wonder if I could ride in the carpool lane with it?

[LonePalm]

I wonder how the jury would feel if they knew the JustUs Department had taken sides in the proceedings.

I don't think they would like it.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

[viaveritasvita]

watch vid @ 1049 later

[RetSignman]

just damn.....all ...read this

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Thanks...SUSPICIONS CONFIRMED!!!

[hummingbird]

"It’s a stinker for her because she wants a particular verdict and zero - yes ZERO - evidence supports it."

Was Nelson the first judge in this trial? Did she replace any previous judges before her?

[Nervous Tick]

>> Am I to believe the stand your ground law is different in FL than it is in TX?

I looked into this a couple days ago with CBoldt’s help.

TX and FL statues are similar in some ways but different in others. Some of the differences seem subtle but are important.

One apparently subtle difference is in the way TX views “fearing danger” (for lack of a better term).

FL requires “fear of death or great bodily harm” before you’re allowed to use “deadly force” in “defense of person”. They define “deadly force” (a firearm is automatically that) but they don’t define “great bodily harm”, they leave that up to case law but there are guidelines.

What being in your Florida “castle” buys you is a “presumption” of fear of great bodily harm. That presumption, as CBoldt pointed out, can be twisted around and negated in court though.

Texas says “a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor [that would be you] reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other’s [that would be the punk] use or attempted use of unlawful force.”

So you can see that Texas doesn’t require anything like “fear of death or great bodily harm”. Subtle but important.

There are other differences as well.

FL self defense law link: http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/Chapter776
TX self defense law link: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.9.htm

Link to our thread (CBoldt has some good comments there): http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3040547/posts?page=45#45

FRegards

[Darren McCarty]

Judicial Qualifications Commission is who to contact - Florida

[advertising guy]

at a certain age mowin and shovelin snow needs to be passed off to yuths so we seasoned fellers do not get a heart attack

[calex59]

Hey, RC, don’t worry about it, it is obvious P-Marlowe has some kind of grudge against you and is willing to ignore things and make up evidence to use against you. P-Marlowe sounds a lot like the trial judge we are watching now. My advice is to quit talking to her/him and it will all go away.