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1 posted on 06/19/2013 4:27:16 AM PDT by djf
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The drip pan helps you to see that your water heater is failing before it floods your house. I would recommend a drip pan.


2 posted on 06/19/2013 4:29:53 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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1) unbolt old water heater
2) bolt in new water heater

it doesn’t get much easier than that

If your water heater needs a drip pan then there is something wrong- if it is in the basement, I would not worry- if it is on a hardwood floor- than OK why not

It is the pressure relief valve and pipe that is usually the biggest drip concern


3 posted on 06/19/2013 4:32:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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Codes some places *require* that drip pan nowadays. It’s just a round pan, a little bigger than the heater diameter, with sides a couple or three inches high. Metal or plastic. You can get ‘em at Home Depot.

I don’t have one on my water heater and it’s about as old as yours. I’d probably put it in if I redid mine — if the thing leaks the pan will catch it and save you damage.

The sharkbite stuff is good. Save you a lot of time.

Turn off the breaker and the water before you disconnect it. :-) j/k I’m sure you know that.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 4:34:23 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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Drip pans are handy, I put my water heater up on cement blocks to assist in rust prevention from below as the Concrete pad sometimes “sweats” due to the high water level in the ground here.

Also I use a solar assisted model with an 80 gal tank. The more water that is heated by solar during the day the less electricity is used during the evening. I highly recommend solar assist for the Hot water heater no matter what your climate is.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 4:35:19 AM PDT by The Working Man
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Sounds like it would be wise if you familiarized yourself with the latest building codes in your area before proceeding.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 4:36:35 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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Sharkbites are generally considered as ‘temporary’. I’d recommend good old fashioned soldered joints, which we know have consistently stood the test of time.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 4:38:06 AM PDT by trailz
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step one, drain water heater...


8 posted on 06/19/2013 4:39:20 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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11 posted on 06/19/2013 4:42:50 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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You install the drip pan under the water heater and put a water sensor in the drip pan. you then attach the water sensor to a cutoff valve in the supply to the water heater. Cuts the chances of a flooded basement down to just about zero. I'm on my fourth water heater, and this technology just came available AFTER I installed the latest one. After cleaning up two big time messes and one small mess caused by leaking water heaters I'm all for it.
14 posted on 06/19/2013 4:45:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Perhaps an aside. If you are connected to a municipal water supply, there is probably a check valve at the connection to prevent Mohammad from back pumping poison into the water supply. So you get your new water heater, fill it with cold water and heat it up. Water expands, water pressure goes up because there is no where for water to expand to.

In this scenario, you need to install a small pressure tank with an air bladder in the supply line to absorb this pressure. Absent the bladder, you will have premature failure of the seals in your water heater.


16 posted on 06/19/2013 4:49:59 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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I am pretty much convinced on a GE 40 or 50 gal 240V model

My comment is that it is wise to not install a large capacity water heater if you live alone. The cost of heating water is the second largest cost of electricity.

18 posted on 06/19/2013 4:53:11 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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Just a note, in case you don't already know...be sure to tell your tax preparer that you replaced it.

You get a tax credit on energy efficient improvements... and the water heater is included.

19 posted on 06/19/2013 4:55:38 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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Sales guy at one store told me drip pan was required by local zoning law. Found out at another store it wasn't true, was just an upsell.

My only advice is to prepare for the old one to leak somewhat when it's being carted out, even after it's drained. I found out the hard way that sometimes all the water doesn't come out! At least not when they drain it. But it can leak out while being carted through the house to get it outside. Wrap the drain spigot near the bottom of the tank in plastic or something absorbent to keep discolored water from staining carpet. Or in my case, to keep it from making the stairs all wet. I had a NASTY fall last year after they carted out the old unit and I didn't realize how wet it had gotten the steps. Take it from a klutz, an ounce of prevention might save you months of pain ;)

20 posted on 06/19/2013 4:56:11 AM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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One suggestion is that if you can you get the same model or the most current version thereof of what you already have. makes the hooking up of the pipes easier.

On my water heater I have five attachment points that have to line up the chimney, the gas line (black iron pipe), inlet, outlet and pressure relief all 3/4 copper pipe. The most recent replacement I could line up the gas, the chimney, and the relief, but I had to use the two 45 deg coupling trick on the inlet and the oulet to get them lined up.

21 posted on 06/19/2013 4:56:43 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Running hot water is for wimps. ;)

/johnny

24 posted on 06/19/2013 5:01:51 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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If the water heater is in a garage you will want to drain the drip pan to the floor beyond the curb (raised concrete that you tire bumps against) or outside if you can.
Drip pans come with a hole in the side which is intended to receive a fitting to run PVC out to drain the pan.
Water heaters sometimes burst a seam and drain spontaneously, not always a slow leak.
The talk about code confuses current code with the requirements for your house (speaking of Texas, now) - current code may require something, but if you're replacing an item in an older home you only need comply with the code that was applicable when your home was built.
They can't very well grandfather new code to all older homes.
If you go tankless, you'll need to think big. A small tankless system may not be able to keep up with a couple of showers running, or filling a large bath tub.
28 posted on 06/19/2013 5:11:57 AM PDT by grobdriver
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Remember to replace the tank anode every year, new ones are about twenty bucks or so.


29 posted on 06/19/2013 5:12:26 AM PDT by ABN 505
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put in an electric on demand heater. cut my elec bills in half...
30 posted on 06/19/2013 5:13:11 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Code or not, definitely get the drip pan. Depending on the water quality where you live, I’ve seen quite a few start leaking just after the warranty expires, but then again the areas I work have terrible water (minerals, hardness, etc.). Warranty claims for a self-install usually involve the homeowner removing and returning the tank to the store.
Up to you to have the code official sign off on the install, I didn’t for my own, but at work we are required to pull the permit.


33 posted on 06/19/2013 5:17:37 AM PDT by jughandle
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Sometimes the biggest problem is draining the water from the tank. My old heater had about a two gallon bucket of mineral scale in the bottom and I had a job of work getting the thing to drain.

I had replaced the lower heating element a couple of years before and extended it’s life a bit but I don’t really recommend doing that since the heater is failing otherwise too.

So go for it! What can happen? Electrocution? Flooding your entire house? Tens of thousands of dollars in damage? A hernia from trying to move a half full tank?


35 posted on 06/19/2013 5:20:16 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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