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To: SunkenCiv

Wait...so Mexicans really don’t have a claim to CA, AZ, NM and TX because, according to their own logic, they are not the indigenous people?


3 posted on 05/29/2013 6:20:43 PM PDT by willyd
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To: willyd
Wait...so Mexicans really don’t have a claim to CA, AZ, NM and TX because, according to their own logic, they are not the indigenous people?

These are the indigenous people:


5 posted on 05/29/2013 6:28:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: willyd
The Atecs, their predecessors, and the early Mexicans had an exceedingly difficult time settling Texas. I think it has to do with drought and hurricane!

The reason Americans became immigrants to former Spanish owned Tejas, and then Mexican owned Tejas, is remarkably simple. For those Americans willing to become members of the state church (RCC) they got a great price on fertile land ~ and both the Spanish and the Mexicans had a great admiration for the American ability to take raw land, live under horrible primitive conditions, withstand the worst weather on the planet, and produce crops like there was no end.

One of the things that helped Americans settle the area was also simple ~ the earlier Spanish settlers had brought in cattle, pigs, chickens, goats and other domesticated animals, and they thrived even without humans around mending fences. American settlers in Texas ate well!

6 posted on 05/29/2013 6:29:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: willyd

Ah since you brought this up

In that May 3rd speech Obama gave before the Mexican Anthropological Museum in which he blamed America for the violence in Mexico I believe he went even futhur. There’s a inference but never referenced by name to the Gasden purchase and border settlements US made with Mexico where Obama hinted he seems to side with the Mexican claims. Would those in attendence share that view is a question that should be asked, because I believe they would,.he does.

The Mexicans have been getting most favorable treatment above the rest of our neighbors both north and south. They’re permitted to cross our borders and enter illegally and are allowed access to rights of citizenship (with the exception of voting which if the democrat party regains control over the House will happen) other nationals entering this country don’t get.

Also by allowing Mexicans to do this any quota ration for immigration from other south and central American countrys are taken up by Mexicans while that country is laying claim to a large chunk of our sovereign territory.

We are already seeing the result of this in certain areas claimed by the Mexicans. Their national flag (standard) gets displayed over ours. Where there is a controlling number of Mexican nationals (illegals). It’s displayed over certain institutions particularly schools accompanied by riots and disturbances. Blacks are threatend by Mexicans in certain sections of citys in those areas. We’re courting trouble by not placing a value on our sovereignty and our citizenship.

Worse yet if a US citizen goes into Mexico never mind illegaly but legally. They’ll get 2nd class treatment. Land ownership in title is prohibited period. And there are a slew of regulations they must comply with. Which doesn’t apply to a citizen of Mexico.

By not insisting on reciprocity particularly on those who have entered this country illegally we’re offering no incentive for assimilation and we’re not easing the burden for our fellow citizens who for what ever reason decided to live in Mexico.


12 posted on 05/29/2013 6:46:49 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: willyd
The Cocopa like the Yaqui and other tribes, lived in the Sonoran desert astride the current US-Mexican border. They were as indigenous as anyone.
22 posted on 05/29/2013 8:30:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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