Posted on 05/28/2013 11:03:23 AM PDT by republicanbred
So I am trying to not make this post into a pity party. I just want to get some input from other Freepers regarding facing these issues in their family. I am a pro-second amendment, pro-life, anti-Obama woman. I am also very strong in my belief in God. Okay, all that said I am in a position where all of my extended family with few exceptions are complete Obama koolaid drinking fanatics, anti-God, pro gay rights, pro abortion up to and including delivery. I have used FB for a while to post my views, I have quite a following because of it. My entire liberal family is blocked from my posts. My comments such as, "those who support abortion are no different than the Germans who stood by and watched while Jews were thrown into ovens" were deemed offensive by them when they were on my FB. I mention that one because they keep throwing it in my face. Anyway, I am at a place where I need to either make peace with some of them for the good of the family by apologizing for offensive comments, or say, "I am who I am, and if it takes me shouting this from the rooftops for it to be heard then so be it." I keep thinking about the American revolution and the Civil War, brothers against brothers, and believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are in the fight of our lives under this POTUS. Because those of us willing to stand up and share the truths of what is going on in this country are a minority, I know many of you face the same issues. Any thoughts on how you have handled or would handle it?
i always endorse dropping contact with ALL liberals... this includes your family.
move if you must.
your life will be better in the long run.
I don’t understand why people have their conversations on facebook. Especially family members.
Better to connect by phone...or e-mail...otherwise the world will indeed know your issues.
Rather like the ‘Ozzies’ opening their home to the world.
I walked away from my entire, extended family/blood relatives about 13 years ago and have not looked back. I am more peaceful for having done so.
If I may inquire, I’m curious as to how you managed to turn out OK. Was thee one seminal event, or one person, that opened your eyes, or did your conservatism just “evolve.”
Great thread, thanks for starting it! Every conservative who is having or has had encounters with abortionists/libs/leftists/socialists/communists/Marxists/Muslims or their supporters can learn something from the various opinions expressed here.
There is no right way to handle it...You have to do what you feel comfortable with.
In my case I isolated myself from my relatives to the point that they no longer invite me to family functions and I don’t invite them.
There have been times when relatives have died and I never found out about it for months....but I don’t care. If that is too painful for you, you will have to compromise, but I guarantee you that any compromise will have to come from you because as they see it, you are the nut.
Like I said, it’s what you feel comfortable with.
Thanks, cuban leaf. Jesus was describing our present time to a tee, wasn’t He?
so, do you enjoy your time with them? do you think they are good examples for your children, family to follow? do you look forward to spending time with them around the holidays or do you have a sick feeling in the pit of your stomach when November rolls around?
Is it possible they are merely a habit - that ‘family is important’ is a motto that your lefty relations now use as a club to wear you down? When your family no longer behaves in a civilized way by turning into a bunch of baby killing obamabots I’d say its time to cut your losses.
Stay on facebook if it helps you reach like-minded people, keep your relatives blocked. Try twitter for politics - its fun for finding ALL the articles out there. If your relatives complain - tell them ‘begone satan, for I am a child of Mary’. Thats what the nuns used to tell us in high school about 50 years ago. They think you’re nuts anyway so what do you care? Make the sign of the cross every time you see them and they misbehave. Have fun with it if you MUST see them.
Heard this in a movie - don’t know which one - ‘family is overrated’. My life got happier, less stressful and angst ridden once I cut the parasites and morons out - whether they were related to me or not.
Americans pledge their lives, fortune and sacred honor to secure the unalienable rights of their fellow citizens.
Just smile and say “God Bless.”
This. FB has probably ruined more lives than anyone realizes.
I too am in the same boat as you, sole Conservative in a large family of Democrats. Get-togethers can be very weird.
I dont put my views out there on the internet, not on social media platforms anyway. Its not doing much good, trust me.
After abortion, gayness has become the next most contentious thing. I had a very old friend who was not a morally upstanding character but was seemingly a confirmed heterosexual. Many girlfriends, later married, two-timed on his wife with a girl half her age. But then he suddenly went 199.99% pure flaming homo, and it turned out that ever since childhood he had a secret gay sex life. He annonced all this very abruptly and then demanded that everyone accept him. His wife, amazingly, had no trouble with it, nor did any of his friends except me. I was willing to ignore it, but that was not enough. He confronted me online and demanded that I affirm his lifestyle. I refused, and he went berserk. So we are not friends anymore.
“I was willing to ignore it, but that was not enough. He confronted me online and demanded that I affirm his lifestyle. I refused, and he went berserk. So we are not friends anymore.”
My husband had a best friend when growing up. Lived next door to him. Had girlfriends, tried to have sex with a girl against her will at a party when he was drunk. Later married had two girls, was married for about 10 years. Suddenly declared he really was ‘always gay’ though never had any contact with men before, divorced his wife. She supported his decision, unbelievably.
He moved from NJ to San Jose, got himself a ‘boyfriend’ and on FB began to harass my husband to accept his lifestyle. My husband evaded the issue for about 3 years.
When my husband finally was cornered, he pointed out, just out of curiosity, how he could be gay when he did all these heterosexual behaviors his entire life previously? The guy also ‘went berserk’ and he ‘unfriended’ him. These guys were friends, very closely, for their entire school years, seeing each other daily. I read my husbands posts, they were polite and intelligent. This guy got very nasty prior to his ‘unfriending’. My husband did tell me that this guy had been pretty nasty even back when.
I think more than a joke, it really is true, Liberalism is a mental disease.
Try a non-apology type of apology. I'm sorry if I offended you, but I am not sorry for giving my opinion or telling the truth.
Find a retreat center or monastery where you can sit alone in a cell for 3-12 months in prayer, contemplation and meditation. Communicate with no one except yourself and God. You’ll get over many things, including your need to speak your mind to others, and your need to have others like you.
My second piece of advice is to let your light as a Christian burn brightly. Pray ardently and ask the Lord to take these people close to himself and change their hearts and repair wounded relationships. He's the expert at fixing what's broken :) Ask him to show you how to love those who act unlovable. And then walk the walk. Walk as a Christian in the light who tries to love all who cross your path, even those you know will reject you and what you stand for. By love I don't mean condoning sin, rather showing love and concern for individuals without supporting destructive beliefs. Live in joy and radiate it to others. Make them want what you have ;)
You wrote, "if it takes me shouting this from the rooftops for it to be heard then so be it". FWIW it wasn't words that changed me. No matter how loudly they were shouted. I heard the message loud and clear. I just didn't buy it. Most of us recoil when someone tells us we're wrong. We're prideful and look for reasons to bolster our beliefs not challenge them.
What I couldn't miss though was that there was something these people had that I didn't. It was authentic prolife Christians in their day to day lives that caught my attention and paved the way for me to see that I was being hypocritical in my Christian walk. That was an essential first step in converting me to the prolife position although other things had to take place before I came around. Only God can convert a heart but we can all help those hearts become more receptive to God's movements by witnessing with our daily lives the beauty of God's message. A saying often attributed to St Francis of Assisi is, "Preach often, using words when necessary."
Please understand I'm not suggesting that you're a hypocrite who's not living your faith. I'm saying that my experience in my proabort years was that you'd have caught my eye by the way you lived your life more than words you said to me. I'd have understood the respect that should be accorded to all life better by the way you treated me with courtesy, especially when I didn't deserve it, than by anything you posted online, no matter how logical or concise the argument. I was the "show me, don't tell me" type. Perhaps you're dealing some of these too.
God bless you :)
Dear FRiend,
I have similar relatives. We are living in a cultural divide that worsens by the day. In time the progressive mind set fails because it is built on foolishness.
It is best to hold your virtues and principles as a beacon that will light the way for those who believe up is down and light is dark. Pray that you loved ones learn the truth of their deception.
We have 2 leaders who have maintained joy in the knowledge that their faith in God and belief in goodness are victory. Reagan and Palin are joyous in spite of the calumny and malicious efforts of their detractors.
Keep the faith and keep your joy ever in front of you. When they see your happiness and compare it to their misery they will wonder....
And yet being a lib, she supports the socialists. That is the crux of the question I pose to those I deffer with. "Are you one of them, or do you just support them with your vote?"
If they want to reject you for being free (stop talking to you), let them do their thing and act like you don’t even notice. You are not their slave nor their property. You are not beholden to their approval. Cozy up to the decent people.
After acting badly, if they bring up your politically incorrect thought and harass you, make fun of them back...”At least I am not cheering on anti-freedom, baby and grandma killers.” “Do you promote the diseases of anal sex too? Laugh at them. Make it short and snippy so they can comprehend your message and see it is going to get ugly if they keep it up. If they keep it up to harass you, you might have to pull out a picture of dead babies so they can understand what you are talking about and that they really don’t want to get into it with you. Or discuss the curse of AIDS, anal warts and anal cancer or the problem of wrecking your anal muscles and shitting all over yourself. How about the average lifespan of 46 years! (Whatever you bring up, be ready to back up with published data or pictures.)
Liberals are stupid, shallow sloganeers in their political and social thought and don’t like you out in the public square effectively holding up a mirror to them. Good to block them from your facebook page. Make it clear that they don’t dictate your thought and morals.
There is probably a ring leader. Identify that person. Isolate them as the ring leader of baby killin’ and turn the followers into accepting the political differences in the family without be childish.
We have two in-your-face liberals in the family and they are scared to death of me. My active, conservative sisters let them spout off without contradiction but I don’t. So they don’t like bringing up their politics to me nor harassing me about mine.
One forgot and objected to me organizing a Tea Party group (she called me a racist!) and so I gave her a box of tea bags for Christmas. I made a photo Christmas card with my husband and I dressed up for a Tea Party protest. It said “We can celebrate Christmas because we are free! Freedom Now! Freedom Forever! MERRY CHRISTMAS! I love you!
Although he is now openly gay his wife has stayed with him. I gather that she is seeing other men. They have an open marriage. At one time they were in the swingers set.
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