Preppers’ PING!!
Yeah, well, I'll feed catz and visitors things I won't eat myself. ;)
One advantage here is that meat wanders across the yard on a regular basis.
On a serious note. I've got a minor medical procedure that I really, really want to get taken care of, but it's going to take a trip to the MD where all the people sick with the flu are.
No thanks. I'm not going out in public until the flu thing is over. Minus a spleen, I'm likely to catch anything going around.
Good thing is I'm eating just like I always do. 2 weeks since the last grocery store visit, and at least a month before I start to want to.
It's good to have a savings account in a currency that you can eat, and doesn't depreciate like the dollar does.
/johnny
Related, riot over housing vouchers in Detroit:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2977536/posts
I’m slowly squirreling away foodstuffs. If there’s a sale on something, I’ll just get some extra and stuff it in the basement. Not that I’ll let anyone know precisely how much extra I have. );-)
I noticed one story during the Sandy Not So Super Storm reporting. A couple of neighbors were cooking up soup on a propane burner. They were feeding a couple of streets from that one little setup, so somebody was prepared and was thinking. The bad part, the NYC health department came in and closed them down for not having the proper permits and licenses. The good part, they moved the operation into their back yard and made it an invitation only block party the next day. On a side note, I have spent the better part of the last year actually testing out our preparations. I have a stock of propane, gasoline and tested generator, sun oven that was used to cook a wide variety of foods and actual preparation and eating of stored foods. Especially interesting and creative was the preparation of various rice, beans, re-hydrated meats and vegetables, canned meats and vegetable meals (it could get real boring with only rice or beans for meals day after day). In addition, we experimented with various types of vegetables grown in our garden with water captured from the gutters into holding tanks. Since we are in Texas, we also experimented with getting two crops during the long growing season and canning. Will be doing more experimentation this year.
Some...but not enough in a purely defensive mode. I have backup to get my food in an offensive mode. (both ways combined without outside interference, I could exist for quite some time.) Thanks for posting, Kartographer. Thanks for your work. BTTT!
Prepare. Persevere.
Does anyone know where I can order online a case or two of Avocet?
Avocet is a dairy cream product found outside the U.S. I used to buy it at a PX while living in Europe, but cannot find it here.
“Food is still cheap and plentiful. That hasn’t always been the case. Don’t expect it to stay that way forever.”
One can say that just about anything these days - but it simply CANNOT last. We are borrowing way too much money, and once that gravy train stops (i.e., the Chinese start demanding we pay in real money for their stuff), the house of cards crumbles...virtually overnight.
Speaking of shelf life...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2603220/posts History of canned foods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabia_(steamboat) Wikipedia article, which also mentions the still edible canned foods found aboard. She sank in 1856, 9 years previous to the sinking of the Bertrand. She was discovered 20 years later than the Bertrand, making her canned goods both earlier as far as processing; and older in terms of span between canning and discovery & testing...and tasting.
It was probably still good because of no expiration dates, so it didn’t know it was “supposed to” go bad.
No matter how much I have, it won’t be enough. We have to put away for ourselves, kids, grandkids, and great grand kids. They just don’t understand, and even if they did their jobs have lousy pay.
I also have to figure out a way to secure it. We have tornadoes and live in the New Madrid fault zone.
My parents grew up during the depression. I learned a lot from them on getting by with little, being frugal, and how to cook from scratch, can, garden, etc. Everything but hunting. We have an upstairs and downstairs pantry. The downstairs one is bigger but it has been overflowing for a couple of years. We have 3 metal shelf units that were full of books but the top 3 shelves of these are also food, been selling the books off on amazon. I use large containers, like the huge plactic laundry soap ones for storing bags of pasta and beans. I do a lot of canning each year. We are kind of out in the boonies so we have always prepped to a certain extent especially prior to winter. Now it’s just expanded.
Food Storage: How much do you have right now?
One month in storage, and two weeks in bug out bag. Total 6 weeks.
Not worried though, we live in FL and can literally live off the vegetation and game.
Please add me to your ping list. Thanks.
5.56mm
JDoutrider and Free Vulcan posted some links to some early threads on survival/prepping on this week’s garden thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2977143/posts
To: greeneyes
Thread #1:
Home gardening offers ways to trim grocery costs [Survival Today, an on going thread]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=9901
Thread #2:
Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?q=1&;page=1
Thread#3:
Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?q=1&;page=1001
24 posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 3:25:38 PM by JDoutrider
Lewis and Clark Expedition supplies - Spent $2,324.00
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lewisandclark/resources.html
bflr
Many years ago, in the mid to late 1950’s, I worked in the Iowa Dept of Agriculture State Chem Lab. We were called on to man the Dept of Ag booth at the Iowa State Fair each year. Among other things, we had samples of home canning that were many years old, some a hundred years or more, and still good.
My mother canned many things, including tomatoes, peaches and other fruits and veggies. Some had been there on our basement pantry shelves for a number of years, but were still good, still good to eat, and none made us sick.
On rare occasion, a quart of canned tomatoes would explode. Any that did not explode were safe to eat, and quite nourishing.
We can veggies from our garden and from our fruit trees today. This year we will expand that to include canned meats. Stuff we buy, we do not respect expiration dates on the cans or packages, except that we rotate by using the oldest first. We would never throw anything out for being past the expiration date. This is also true of our stash of natural remedies, including supplements.
Note that the FDA does not require expiration dates on supplements, and some manufacturers/suppliers put manufacturing dates on, but not expiration dates.