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Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Life Site News ^ | 1-10-13 | Hilary White

Posted on 01/11/2013 5:39:57 PM PST by ReformationFan

Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time.

Pew’s findings have caught the attention of one US writer who maintains that feminism, deeply entrenched in every segment of the culture, has created an environment in which young men find it more beneficial to simply opt out of couple-dom entirely.

Suzanne Venker’s article, “The War on Men,” which appeared on the website of Fox News in late November, has become a lodestone for feminist writers who have attacked her position that the institution of marriage is threatened, not enhanced, by the supposed gains of the feminist movement over the last 50 years.

“Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?” is a question much talked about lately in the secular media, Venker says, but her answer, backed up by statistics, is not to the liking of mainstream commentators influenced by feminism.

She points out that for the first time in US history, the number of women in the workforce has surpassed the number of men, while more women than men are acquiring university degrees.

“The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women,” Venker wrote. With feminism pushing them out of their traditional role of breadwinner, protector and provider – and divorce laws increasingly creating a dangerously precarious financial prospect for the men cut loose from marriage – men are simply no longer finding

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To: OldPossum

It is a simple statement, if you read then you know what it said, there is no secret meaning.


301 posted on 01/12/2013 8:58:36 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: goodnesswins

I’m really happy for you! I’ve often struggled thinking I was lazy etc for not WANTING a career. You and I are truly blessed! And we both know the secret, we not only love our spouses, we believe in them, support them and above all else, respect them.


302 posted on 01/12/2013 9:09:18 AM PST by navymom1
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To: ReformationFan
JMHO but I think folks had more realistic expectations about what life is and was back then. Hence, most husbands and wives stayed together and I think they were more content. Sadly, so many youngsters today have an unrealistic expectation of what life promises from their teachers and from popular entertainment, it’s very hard for them to realize until too late that life is not a Disney movie.

Are you kidding me? I think you're spot on. How many times in pop culture do we show people finding their "soul mate" who go off with endless passion... pffft.

The reality is that, by nature, each of us, men and women, are intrinsically selfish to our very core. It is the one reason why porn is so appealing. Men can gratify themselves without any effort or investment whatsoever. And women demand to be catered to and endlessly treated like the jewel of the Nile.

The reality is that men and women must learn to overcome their overwhelming and innate to be selfish. This is what our parents teach us as kids as we learn to socialize. Modern liberalism has told us (incorrectly) that we can have it all! Do you see the selfishness in that? Do you see in that statement the idea that there is no need for self sacrifice?

In reality, only God can truly change the wicked hearts of men and women.

303 posted on 01/12/2013 9:17:57 AM PST by Obadiah (It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks ReformationFan.
Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.
I'm not a younger man, but I'd definitely be interested in a young woman. Or more than one. Probably not at the same time, but hey, I support diversity.


304 posted on 01/12/2013 9:28:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: ReformationFan
Yes, it's much easier to slide by & survive for a long time on immaturity and ignorance. Just one more reason we need to get rid of entitlements and allow people the hard landing they need to start climbing back up.
305 posted on 01/12/2013 9:38:30 AM PST by Cruising For Freedom
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To: diamond6

Thank you.

Some of the images portrayed in pop culture are twisted. In a recent flipping through channels, I came across a young girl (maybe 12 or 13) smacking a boy multiple times because he didn’t fawn over another actress (someone the first girl admired) who was seated in a diner. After that boy was attacked, there was an adult military official who then was humiliated by the young girl for the same reason. Again: the image was females being overly emotional and aggressive. And why is the image of a military member being degraded in such a way?

Sadly, this carries over into real life. Men are disrespected, and unfortunately willing participants (getting their faces slapped or groins kicked in the name of comedy) in so-called entertainment venues. This, to the left, is a sign of progress. No thanks.


306 posted on 01/12/2013 9:39:52 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: Obadiah
I would say I drive the car 90% of the time in our relationship but there are times when I think it is better that she drive. She doesn't drink alcohol so when I've had a few, she is the perfect designated driver. It does look kind of odd however to see a woman driving with a man in the passenger seat. Think of a man clinging to a woman's arm in public. Just not natural. Though when I've had more than just a few, I'm sure I had to do that once or twice back in my younger days!

I do think the whole women's lib thing is a cop-out for guys. Women like a man to take charge. If a man feels he has to "shrink back" and let a woman dominate, then he is just not asserting himself enough.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating a caveman/cavewoman approach where the man drags the woman behind him. But the man in the relationship does need to project the power and authority necessary for a woman to feel comfortable being submissive to him. This feeds the man's natural desire to protect and provide and the woman's natural desire to be protected and taken care of.

307 posted on 01/12/2013 9:55:22 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Obadiah

“The reality is that men and women must learn to overcome their overwhelming and innate to be selfish.”

It’s an ongoing struggle till death.

“This is what our parents teach us as kids as we learn to socialize. Modern liberalism has told us (incorrectly) that we can have it all! Do you see the selfishness in that? Do you see in that statement the idea that there is no need for self sacrifice?”

And if they don’t get it all and aren’t happy 24/7, it’s “society’s fault” and they’re “entitled” to a resolution from the government.

“In reality, only God can truly change the wicked hearts of men and women.”

Amen.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202:1-10&version=ESV

“And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.”


308 posted on 01/12/2013 9:59:09 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: SunkenCiv

Being interested in one or more young women I understand. But are you interesting in marrying them?


309 posted on 01/12/2013 10:01:57 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: 45semi
If I were suddenly to become single again after 20+ years... The very LAST thing I would want is some young 'trophy wife'.

I totally agree with you and you know they will only want you for your money and will probably have a young stud on the side - spending YOUR money. A man with a trophy wife is a fool in my opinion.

When I was younger, women in their 40s and 50s looked incredibly old to me and unattractive. But as I age to that level myself, I find myself much more attracted to women in my own age group then younger women, who I now see as immature and high maintenance. Besides, it would be overly creepy for me to have a relationship with a woman young enough to be my daughter. I don't know how other guys do it.

310 posted on 01/12/2013 10:11:14 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Women need men to be strong, assertive, financially responsible and always, always in control. Women need men to be go-getters and good, dependable providers.

Where have you been the last 30+ years?

There are plenty of men who exhibit those characteristics.

Unfortunately, women don't want them. They get called "Nice Guys" and the women instead go whore themselves around with the players, the thugs, the losers.

Way too many men out there are slackers, they lack ambition, work ethic, discipline. They act like overgrown adolescents. Whenever I see a man sitting at home playing a child's video game on the living room couch in his sweatpants, I want to smack him upside the head and knock some sense into him.

When your only choices are women who are like Sandra Fluke or women who are like Kim Kardashian, playing video games doesn't sound so bad.

Way too many men dress like slobs in public. Next time you go to a nice restaurant, look around you. You will see grown men taking their woman to dinner dressed in hockey jerseys, sneakers, ill-fitting jeans, etc.

You see guys like that with girls because that's the type of guy that girls want.

It's really simple. Women do the choosing. If woman went for respectable gentlemen, guys would be respectable gentlemen. If women go for lazy losers & thugs, the guys are going to be lazy losers & thugs.

See "Women don't want a Gentleman"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxexh-5eg9Q

311 posted on 01/12/2013 10:22:44 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: SamAdams76

Sam you make some good points. I think the problem is that many “men” out there today in their 20’s had the distinct disadvantage of being raised by single moms. No father figure to provide an example. Not that this can’t be overcome, but it is a big deal.

You’re right about having a plan. I can’t stand seeing adult “men” playing videogames all day. Same can be said though about following sports too much. You need to have a purpose. Women will be attracted to that.

To me it was the military. As an officer at age 21 I had more responsibility than most men have their entire life. Unfortunately, many men don’t want to join the military these days. My poor brother (divorced, wife cheated on him after 17 years of marriage)has three sons that are liberal Obama-voting pukes. Look down at the military with disdain. It frustrates my brother as he was a captain in the USMC. His oldest is a sophomore at Georgetown and will have to take at least a year off school because they can’t afford it. $54,000/year. This kid will not consider ROTC. At all.

Long story, but the point is valid. Many young men aren’t go-getters anymore. You can’t wait for stuff to be handed to you you have to take it. I left home at 18 and never looked back. Military College then active duty.

Now I’m married with 3 sons of my own and instill pride in them daily. My wife hears how lucky she is all the time from her dissatisfied friends. But you’re right. Bust your ass and the women will notice. You’ll have your pick and hopefully will make the right decision. Sit on your ass in your parent’s basement and you’ll get what you deserve too. And shame on those parents for not kicking their boys out.

I’m the lucky one. Got a wonderful wife. She’s an engineer and makes twice what I do. Same go-getter mentality, but we both understand that raising our kids in a loving mutually supportive house is most important.

I’ll do my part to raise my boys properly. Hopefully they can find beautiful conservative women.


312 posted on 01/12/2013 10:30:31 AM PST by strider44
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To: ansel12

Of course, it’s a simple statement. I was just wondering why you want to note that your father had extremely poor judgment in choosing a life partner, that’s all.

Furthermore, he certainly didn’t believe his marriage vows, either. You know, the part about til death shall we part. How quaint.


313 posted on 01/12/2013 10:47:57 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Well I thought it was interesting, but I didn’t anticipate you making such a big deal about it, especially not in such a hostile personal tone, I doubt that you know much about my dead father or his first wife, my dead mother, but you seem to think that she was a bad choice.

How quaint.


314 posted on 01/12/2013 11:22:37 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: qam1
One thing I've learned myself over the past 30 years is that women are indeed strongly attracted to men who are sure of themselves, assertive and have achieved career and financial success. Women might have dismissed such men as "nice guys" in their younger days but they hunger for them when they get older.

I was rather serious as a young adult and did not get a lot of female attention. Now that I am entering my 50s and have a measure of financial and career success to show for it, I now have women constantly flirting with me and making it more than apparent that they would welcome my advances even though they know that I am married. So I'm thinking to myself "Where were these women 30 years ago!"

So even back in the 1970s, when I was coming of age, there was a "jock" mindset with the girls. They would rather be out dating the football player who would treat them like an accessory and attempt to date-rape them every night rather than the quiet kid who studied hard, with the intentions of making something out of his life after school.

Difference was that in my generation, there were a lot of boys who eventually turned into successful men so when the girls grew up themselves, there were plenty of good men to be found. These days, you have an entire generation of 20 and 30-something "boys" who don't even know how to wear a business suit or hold down a decent job. They are fated to spend the rest of their shiftless lives bouncing from dead-end job to dead-end job - if they work at all. So I think that is why men like myself are drawing all the female attention these days.

315 posted on 01/12/2013 11:33:07 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: ReformationFan

I was on eHarmony for a while, but unfortunately they use educational level as a primary matching ctiterion. The result? Profile after profile of highly educated, ultra-liberal women, usually teachers. I gave up. There is an upside, though: I’m 43, have zero debt, earn six figures, and am about to buy a house—for *cash*.


316 posted on 01/12/2013 11:37:29 AM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: strider44
Excellent post and I think we have very similar backgrounds. I joined the Marine Corps out of high school and it was the best thing for me. I was enlisted but was an E-5 sergeant by the time I was 21 and learning how to lead other men. So when I got into the workforce after my enlistment, my career advanced like a freight train, where currently I have VP position running operations for my company at a regional level. Without the military, I would not have had the drive and energy to get to that level, especially without a college education. The Marine Corps lit a fire under me that hasn't gone out to this day.

But when I recommend military service to some family members who are shiftless and having trouble getting started in life, their mothers recoil at me in horror for even suggesting it. Despite the success I have obtained as a result of military service (I have far outdistanced the rest of my family in terms of career and wealth), the mothers will not hear of their "little Johnny" going into the big, bad military. During all this, the fathers, if they are around, remain silent.

This is a classic situation where we need the strong father figure to assert himself. When I signed up for the Marines, my mother would have no part of it. She went to her room and cried for days. But my father stepped in and said that the military was the best thing for me and supported me 100%. Eventually my mother had to give in and sign the papers (I was still only 17).

Of course, my mother eventually became proud of what I later achieved but it would not have happened without my father.

317 posted on 01/12/2013 11:51:15 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: hinckley buzzard
tergiversations

Perfect word use. Excellent, and so truly descriptive of your point.

318 posted on 01/12/2013 11:53:40 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: ReformationFan
“Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?”

Out banging the sluts that give it up on the 1st date? Just a guess.

Now I'll get to the comments.

319 posted on 01/12/2013 12:18:29 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: llevrok
But like the Hotel California - Once you check in, you can never check out.

Actually, you can check out of Hotel California, you just can't ever leave.

Maybe you were thinking of the Roach Motel?

Either way. ;>)

320 posted on 01/12/2013 12:22:33 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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