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My wife and I discussed this thread for a couple of hours in the middle of the night. Now she knows why I like Free Republic so much.
Of course we prayed for your Mom, your family and the doctor (as another FReeper so gently reminded us).
Does your Mom have a name? I will add her to my Prayers and anything else you need me to do write letters make phone calls or anything else you need just ask
Praying now.
Does your Mom have a name? I will add her to my Prayers and anything else you need me to do write letters make phone calls or anything else you need just ask
This is what they did to my grandmother in the hospital. She was begging for food and water. Due to fluid in her lungs (small mount) they wouldn’t give her IV’s or any nutrition. I’m assuming that despite her being mentally sharp as a tack, not unconscious, the medical personal decided (without our input, i gave my input and it wasn’t received well by the hospital. my grandmother had insurance and money to pay), but they decided it was her time to die. don’t give fluids or nutrition to a 94 year-old woman, it will kill her. It did, in 4 days.
Prayers for your mother.
Praying for your mother.
Prayers.
All good points and pretty much all consistent from FRiends - get her out of there IMMEDIATELY, get a new doctor, get an attorney, POA, good nurishing food, etc. The first thing I thought of was Terri and then that she was being medicated to sleep and I see that has been covered, too. Until you can get her another doctor, monitor everything they give her very closely. Look at the label. Have the nurse explain why they’re giving it to her. Watch their body language. Have her bed raised so she’s sitting up so any spoons of food you can get her to eat goes down. But get her out of there yesterday.
Immediate prayers up.
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Please read MacMattico's account of his mother's situation. May God protect her!
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If she is at Crouse or Upstate, get her out of there. Take her to St. Joe’s!
Prayer’s up for you. I really don’t have any advice to add, but thew rest here seemed to have provided a lot of good advice. All I can say is it seems to me the doctors and the rest are walking a fine line that is easy to cross into the world of murder and manslaughter and I see Bronco Bamacare and Mengelecare doing the same thing. Yes, we all pass on, it is life, but it is up to God to decide not doctors or bureaucrats.
I am praying that GOD’s will be done here for your mom and your family and the cause of life.
Take notes after converstations like you are a court reporter in case you end up suing the doc for murdering your mom so you might be able to help others. Have witnesses if you can.
The death panel’s mentality has yet been tested in court.
Do contact Terry’s brother and see what they say. Do replace the doc if you can. Do consult other docs to see if withholding nutrition makes sense in treating her...rather than killing her.
No matter what, your mom is in the hands of Jesus, so don’t panic. You, too are in the hands of Jesus and He will guide you. You are like a pioneer in this new realm of liberalism’s authortarianism within the culture of death. Don’t be afraid about “hurting the doc’s feelings.” Challenge him. Get in his face. Get bottom line statments and record them.
For me, this has become simple. God said all men are evil. There is none good, no not one. The heart is evil, who can know it? Well, we took God out of the country years ago. We now depend on these people and their morals. Where did their morals come from with no God allowed? We are paying the price now. The seeds have been sown and now we are reaping that crop. Why are we so surprised that the towers fell, the economy collapsed, and Obama was re elected? When you give evil men power over you, why are we surprised when they seek to kill you. America is finished, we just haven't died yet. IMO, gun control will be the last nail in the coffin. We will officially be slaves to men led by Satan.
The doctors and nurses may seem perfectly kind to your face, but I assure you, they are having meetings daily to see who will literally die tomorrow. I don't want to go into it right now, but my wife literally saw and heard these discussions about her brother. He was gravely ill with no insurance. They spoke daily about moving him out where he would not be allowed to come back. We fought for a year against the hospital and he lasted a year. But they fought TPN the whole way because it was $800 a bag. He couldn't even swallow his own spit without throwing it back up. He had a suction on his stomach, but his nurses gave him pills to swallow. His meds went to his stomach and were sucked into his suction jar immediately. We showed the meds in the jar to his nurse and she just walked off. More than once we heard Dr Red Duke say he wanted him "outta here". He finally died after a year of neglect and active assault on his health. He was 45. It's about the money.
**Our family Priest has says she has a right to hydration and nutrition**
Absolutely. Can you get her into another facility?
Prayers and please also get legal advice!
Prayers lifted.
Hi all, I’m on my phone so please excuse my mistakes. We spoke with three different doctors and got three different answers! I called St. Joseph’s where she would want to be and they said their ICU is filled and even if it wasn’t they wouldn’t transfer her because both hospitals offer the same level of care. This really hurt me, as they are the Catholic hospital that said they would probably give her a feeding tube, dependingon her prognosis, which they said if she was still in ICU they would. Which she is. I’ll tell every one —she’s at Crouse. We’ve always had good care there before. A nurse told me if she were not in ICU she would be fed per our wishes! But ICU does its own thing. One of the doctors said she’ll be fed if we have her moved only to comfort care, in other words ready to die. Another doctor says she would choke on any food, one says her organs would shut down if we made digestion work! Yet they had me trying to feed herby tray yyesterday! They offered a second opinion but only with a doctor with their hospital! Gee, what do you think they’d say? More later..,