Posted on 01/03/2013 6:36:29 PM PST by BenLurkin
Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev’s off-air comments that Russian Presidents are given a secret file about extraterrestrials living among us created much media interest. Most news reports claimed that Medvedev was simply joking. His apparent reference to the Men In Black movie as a source of information on a super secret agency that monitors extraterrestrials on Earth was commonly cited as key evidence that he was in fact joking. The reasoning is that no political leader would refer reporters to a comedy to clarify national policy. It has now emerged that Medvedev was not referring to the Men in Black comedy after all, but to a recent Russian television documentary titled “Men in Black” that reveals many details about an extensive cover up of extraterrestrial life visiting Earth.
However, a more accurate translation of what Medvedev actually said about the Men in Black phenomenon was: “You can receive more detailed information having watched the documentary film of the same name.” So Medvedev was referring to a Russian “documentary film” titled Men in Black, not the Hollywood blockbuster by the same name...
Russian Men In Black (MIB) documentary, a number of prominent UFO cases in Russia and the USA are discussed. The Roswell UFO crash is covered, along with a number of extraterrestrial abduction cases, and UFOs disabling nuclear weapons facilities. The documentary examines testimony that extraterrestrial bases have been established on Earth, and that some are in restricted US military areas with the full knowledge of the Pentagon. The documentary even goes on to seriously discuss President Eisenhower’s alleged meeting with extraterrestrials, where agreements were reached with some of the visitors giving them permission to take some of the Earth’s resources in exchange for advanced technology...
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Truth be known, RG, none of us are “worthy,” but he blesses us just the same. Forgiveness is really big with Him!
Oh. Yes. I have a copy of the Koran. They admit Jesus was a “minor” prophet, but at the same time, they give him Godly attributes in the Koran, when they say he spoke to Mary shortly after his birth.
It would seem in Sharia Law, God has been deposed by Mo. It’s amazing they have survived as long as they have. Oh. Wait. They pick on the ignorant and uneducated to get their recruits.
And since women have no status, the sons cannot be taught mercy.
Ants are a good comparison between our level of existence and those things which may be “God-like”. It fits.
As a rational being, why would I want to voluntarily end my existence? As a rational being, why would I want to end someone Else’s existence unless they were a direct threat to my continued existence?
Why would I trust anyone Else’s words that might contravene what my own intelligence it telling me about how my life should be lived? Especially when there are competing religions offering those words...
That baby is just like some of the residents here...some (like me) are still ambulatory, and make a modicum of sense once in a while, but there are others that are soon transferred to assisted living quarters. Or the “last alternative,” which is a ride in the coroner’s wagon. I see it every day I walk out my door.
Some days, we will lose four our five residents. But then we may go six months before we lose one. I am reminded of my mortality.
On what basis do you make that assertion?
As a rational being, why would I want to voluntarily end my existence? As a rational being, why would I want to end someone Else’s existence unless they were a direct threat to my continued existence?
Lots of people want to end their existence. Some out of a feeling of remorse, which you may not find rational. Some because the concept of existing is no longer entertaining to them.
Why would I trust anyone Else’s words that might contravene what my own intelligence it telling me about how my life should be lived?
You were the one who pointed out the limits of your intelligence. I know there are limits to mine. Deciding what is real based solely on my own intelligence seems like a bad idea.
Especially when there are competing religions offering those words...
I don't have any problem applying my intelligence to what competing religions, or even competing gods say.
That is a blessing. Many of us are foolish enough to take ours for granted.
What is a "God"? If you accept the definition of an Omnipotent/Omniscient being that exists beyond our own mortal selves... then such a being would be as much, if not more, advanced than we are to any other lower lifeform we know of.
Lots of people want to end their existence.
Lots of people do things that aren't rational. As long as they aren't hurting anyone else directly, why should we get in their way? It isn't our life. It's theirs.
Deciding what is real based solely on my own intelligence seems like a bad idea.
Why? You'd trust someone else to come up with those ideas for you? Are you sure they have your best interests at heart? If you are that sure, then why so uncertain about your own abilities in discerning the answers to such questions yourself? Seems like you are trying to put off having to come up with hard answers for yourself...
I don't have any problem applying my intelligence to what competing religions, or even competing gods say.
Which is more than enough intellectual horsepower to work through the calculus to come up with those answers for yourself despite your protestations otherwise. ;-)
You'd have to define advanced in some more concrete way for me to understand your point. So far as I know, there are many "lower" life forms that we can communicate with. There are others we can't. There's no reason for me not to believe that and advance omniscient/omnipotent being could not figure out how to communicate with us.
Lots of people do things that aren't rational. As long as they aren't hurting anyone else directly, why should we get in their way? It isn't our life. It's theirs.
You've only called it irrational, not explained why it is so. But that doesn't begin to address my question. My question was what you believe is an acceptable alternative for you.
Why? You'd trust someone else to come up with those ideas for you?
I would trust someone who is omniscient/omnipresent. Wouldn't you?
Now as to the point that started this whole discussion, you keep insisting that the "why" we are here isn't important by insisting that your answer to why we are here is the correct one. That doesn't make sense to me. If you really thought it didn't matter, you would not say we are here for no reason, you would say it doesn't matter. You would not try to convince me that you are correct and there is no reason, you would try to convince me that it doesn't matter.
Whether you believe in God, Intelligent Spaghetti, or an accidental grouping of molecules, clearly it matters.
Too many negatives and I screwed that up. Let me try again.
There's no reason for me to believe that an advanced omniscient/omnipotent being could not figure out how to communicate with us.
My question at this point is, predictably, how do you know that the "someone" you trust is, indeed, omniscient/omnipresent? What markers are there for you to be able to discern their exquisite intelligence?
Just axin'.
I have answers for those, but... I gotta get out of here and head for home.
Later all.
Ta, DC. :o])
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1tsdfq16Ho
Silly putty from a shotgun?
Without wanting to raise arguments about Genesis-as-history (just go with the premise!), Tom recently suggested that some of the “unused” parts of our brain operate abilities that we once had, but most of us no longer have. For example, he suggested that, if once all human beings had a single language which all understood, perhaps a form of telepathic ability was part of that.
After all, language divergence is such a universal thing that a family or a Scout troop can develop distinctive usage that results in confusion to outsiders. Having that NOT happen is, in some sense, “un-natural” based on our nature as we now see it. Perhaps the story of the Tower of Babel refers to an episode when God shut off that mental-communication function from our everyday brain activity. This would result in immediate confusion, as people who had previously experienced some mental communion no longer did, and in the fairly short term - a couple of generations - very significant language diversity as people congregated with those most-like-them, most easily understood: their own families.
It’s not “science,” in the sense of being testable, but it’s a scienc-y hypothesis, because it’s based on known facts, such as the fact that our thinking and feeling are measureably electrical and chemical, and so it’s not impossible that what we call “extrasensory” phenomena are simply ways of processing brain-electricity that most people aren’t using or can’t use.
This would explain Pat’s invisibility, too ... he’s electro-directing the light so as to avoid his image’s being recognized by one’s brain.
That's how it is in The Villages, where my parents live. Mom went through a phase of losing her tax clients on a regular basis. "I have to go to the funeral so I can meet the executor!"
Between that and the fact that tax season was also Houseguest Time, she retired!
As you say, that doesn't take much more than ordinary intelligence.
That's not a bad theory. Mine is a little simpler. I think the unused parts of our brain are unused in the same way as the junk DNA is junk or the vermiform appendix is a useless organ.
That is to say, as we learn more about DNA we learn there is no junk DNA and we finally discovered the purpose for the vermiform appendix. We barely understand the brain. A claim that we don't use a part of it makes little sense to me.
Is it too late for me to inject “not my fault” in that one?
Regional dialects splinter further within the region, keeping one language would be hard without some form of “parity check” to keep everything neat.
The French try that with their language.
They had an office dedicated to keeping the language ‘pure’ or as close to it as they can.
I have come to a decision finally after some more deliberations and driving some people’s cars. I will buy a VW Golf GTI. Also because it goes 181 miles an hour. I will have to find a place where it is okay to do that.
Probably the two-door version because I honestly rarely ever need 4 doors and the 2 door cars are cheaper and apparently slightly smaller and faster. The seats in the back fold down so I can still fit a dog in there pretty easily.
Also I can afford all the options and still be well under 27 grand. Except the touchscreen radio thing but I don’t really want that anyway. Buttons are fine.
I’m quite excited about it.
Also the lower price (25 grand) means I can buy it in September or October probably and sell you the Neon then. I’ll have to drive down of course so I’ll just buy the car in North Carolina and save myself the trouble of registering it in a state where I’m not a legal resident.
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