Russian PM not joking – extraterrestrials live among us according to MIB documentary

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev’s off-air comments that Russian Presidents are given a secret file about extraterrestrials living among us created much media interest. Most news reports claimed that Medvedev was simply joking. His apparent reference to the Men In Black movie as a source of information on a super secret agency that monitors extraterrestrials on Earth was commonly cited as key evidence that he was in fact joking. The reasoning is that no political leader would refer reporters to a comedy to clarify national policy. It has now emerged that Medvedev was not referring to the Men in Black comedy after all, but to a recent Russian television documentary titled “Men in Black” that reveals many details about an extensive cover up of extraterrestrial life visiting Earth.

However, a more accurate translation of what Medvedev actually said about the Men in Black phenomenon was: “You can receive more detailed information having watched the documentary film of the same name.” So Medvedev was referring to a Russian “documentary film” titled Men in Black, not the Hollywood blockbuster by the same name...

Russian Men In Black (MIB) documentary, a number of prominent UFO cases in Russia and the USA are discussed. The Roswell UFO crash is covered, along with a number of extraterrestrial abduction cases, and UFOs disabling nuclear weapons facilities. The documentary examines testimony that extraterrestrial bases have been established on Earth, and that some are in restricted US military areas with the full knowledge of the Pentagon. The documentary even goes on to seriously discuss President Eisenhower’s alleged meeting with extraterrestrials, where agreements were reached with some of the visitors giving them permission to take some of the Earth’s resources in exchange for advanced technology...

March 4, 1:30 p.m.
Television Broadcast, WNYC TV News

Sommers:
Good afternoon. Joining us again to talk about the latest developments in The Healer’s story is Dr. Samuel Estive, Pastor of NYC Seeker Church. Welcome, Steve.

Estive:
Hello, Leslie. These appear to be very exciting times!

Sommers:
Yes they do. Let’s take a look at some of the people who’ve been touched by Mr. Nnkoba.

(Cut to video of on-the-scene interviews with Mark Jacobs)

Elderly Gentleman:
I haven’t been able to hear clearly, even with a hearing aid, for over a decade.

Jacobs (off camera):
And now?

Elderly Man:
Here’s my hearing aid. I’m not only hearing you, I’m hearing the conversations around us. I’m even hearing the birds singing around us. Do you know how long it’s been since I’ve heard a bird sing (begins to tear up).

Young Man:
I had my right foot blown off by an IED in Afghanistan. I watched it re-grow with my own eyes. It forced the prosthetic I had right off my ankle and on to the ground. (Wiggles his foot for the camera.)

Jacobs:
Regrown without a shoe.

Young Man:
(Laughs) I hope I still have the match, but for right now I don’t want a shoe. I want to feel the grass, the concrete, everything.

Middle-aged Woman:
The rheumatoid arthritis actually started when I was in college. By the time I was 40 I couldn’t turn the page in a book. I suffered terrible pain every day and so many of my joints were completely fused. Now look. (Flexes her fingers, elbows, rotates her arms, does knee bends.)

Jacobs:
And no pain?

Middle-aged Woman:
I would be happy even if there were pain. But, no, no pain at all. These are the joints I was born with. I’m still having a hard time believing it. I am wiggling my own fingers and waiting to find out how this is all a hoax.

(Cut to guest studio)

Estive:
It’s just beyond imagination.

Sommers:
A couple of days ago you were worried that this might not be from God.

Estive:
There’s no reason to worry about that now. Pastor Smith has given all credit to God. Mr. Nnkoba has not tried to accept any accolades for what he’s doing. The healings all appear genuine. Nobody is trying to profit. Of course, crazies are hanging around trying to capture some of the spotlight, including “Pastor” Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church. But we can’t blame Rick or Mr. Nnkoba for what others do. I could be wrong, but for right now this has all the markings of a genuine move of God.

Sommers:
Let’s look at this next clip, the first bit of controversy to come out of today’s healings.

(Cut to clip of interview with George Weston.)

Jacobs:
Explain to us what has upset you.

Weston:
(Caption: George Weston, Bronx) I have AIDS. It’s full blown. The cocktail of medications I take is keeping me alive and relatively pain free, but I’m dying. I’d really love to be healed. But I can’t have that guy healing me in the name of Jesus when Jesus would keep me out of heaven just because I’m gay.

Jacobs:
Were you asked about your sexual orientation when you reached the front of the line?

Weston:
No.

Jacobs:
Did Mr. Nnkoba refuse to help you?

Weston:
No. He was reaching for my head and I said, “Please don’t mention the name of Jesus like you have been.” He said, “I have my instructions from God. I lay my hands on people and repeat what he told me to repeat. I can’t do anything else.” I said, “The name of Jesus offends me.” He said, “It’s not my choice. It’s God’s choice. I must do what I must do.”

Jacobs:
What happened then.

Weston:
That other man, I think he’s the Pastor of the Church, stepped up and said I should either accept the healing or leave because I was keeping other people from being healed. I said I wanted the healing, but not in the name of Jesus. He said that was the only way it could be offered and I had to make my choice. So I left.

Jacobs:
And your complaint?

Weston:
They denied me healing because I’m gay. That doesn’t sound like something a loving God would do. They’re frauds.

Jacobs:
But, technically, they didn’t deny you healing. They just refused to do it the way you wanted.

Weston:
I couldn’t accept it in the name of Jesus. It wasn’t possible. They denied me the only healing that was possible. They might just as well have said they could only heal me if I inhaled water first. It was totally outrageous.

(Cut to guest studio.)

Sommers:
Sam?

Estive:
This is a really delicate place for me to be in, Leslie. I’m not in a position to judge either Mr. Nnkoba or Mr. Weston. I don’t know either of them personally. I’m certainly sensitive to Mr. Weston’s sense of persecution from Christians. I know Christians have done that. You were kind enough not to show the clip of the people from Westboro Baptist assailing Mr. Weston, but that kind of thing would cause anyone to reject people who seemed to be affiliated with him.

On the other hand, “Pastor” Phelps doesn’t represent most Christians. Pastor Smith and Mr. Nnkoba didn’t refuse Mr. Weston so much as insist on doing what they believe God told them to do. I’m in no position to challenge Mr. Nnkoba when he says those are his instructions. It’s just a tough situation.

Sommers:
So, nobody is wrong?

Estive:
Someone is probably wrong, but I’m not able to judge who. I need to understand a lot more about what’s going on with both of them. But I do know one thing, Mr. Weston is hurting, and he needs healing. I wish I knew how to give it to him.

Sommers:
You mentioned the actions of the people from Westboro Baptist that we didn’t show. We also didn’t show members of The Congregation in Central Park Church offering to pray with Weston without using the name of Jesus. They told him that, if he wanted to come back, he wouldn’t need to wait in line again.

Estive:
That sounds like a good response to me. Maybe they can find an accommodation.

Sommers:
But, if homosexuality is a sin, as many Christians say it is, would God want Mr. Nnkoba to heal Mr. Weston?

Estive:
Let’s leave the issue of whether homosexuality is a sin aside for now, Leslie. There’s been no indication that God restricted Mr. Nnkoba from touching anyone. Pastor Smith didn’t announce that anyone would be unwelcome. For all we know, rapists, child molesters, or murderers have gone through that line and received healing. If they didn’t say, we wouldn’t know. The only reason we know Mr. Weston is gay is because he told us.

Mr. Weston said Mr. Nnkoba was reaching for him. There was no question asked that might be used to see if Mr. Weston qualified for healing. The Bible tells us that some good things God intends for everyone, no matter how “good” or “bad” they are. This gift of healing appears to be available to anyone who will let Mr. Nnkoba touch them and say what he has to say. The Jewish patient of the other day, Mr. Weston today, there’s been nobody turned away so far.

Sommers:
Thanks again for joining us, Sam.

Estive:
Any time, Leslie.

March 4th 7:20 p.m.
Blog post, All Things NYC blog

After a day of healing, a small blot has appeared on what has otherwise been a lily-white operation. I’ve been surprised at how patient people have been waiting in line, and I’ve been amazed at the stamina of Mr. Nnkoba. He took one short break between nine and noon this morning, ate lunch between 12 and 12:30, then took two short breaks between 12:30 and 6:00. For all the rest of today he’s been on his feet, putting his hands on peoples’ heads and repeating his mantra. And people have been being healed at the rate of 2-3 per minute. It’s been amazing.

But there was a change at a little after 6:00. An ambulance came up on 5th Avenue, lights and siren going full. One of the EMTs jumped out and asked if their patient could be brought to the front of the line. From what I understand, the patient in the ambulance was near death and probably would not have survived the trip to the hospital. He certainly would not have survived the transfer into the hospital to be seen by a doctor. The EMTs took a huge risk and brought the man to Central Park to the barricade where Mr. Nnkoba is doing his healing. The risk paid off as the man was healed and walked back to the ambulance on his own strength. It was another miraculous event in a day filled with miraculous events.

The blot occurred when people waiting in line complained. They felt it was unfair to let the ambulance patient go first when they have been waiting in line for so long. Volunteers from the Church tried to explain the emergency, but those who had been waiting complained that the rules are “first come, first served.” They didn’t feel the rules should have been changed for this man. Some of them have terminal conditions and could possibly die while waiting in line. Others in line defended the decision. They pointed out that the delay was less than one minute and results were definitely worth a short extra wait. They said that, so far, everyone had been healed who wanted to be healed. They said it would be a shame if this man died before he could be seen. The debate settled down before it became truly ugly, but I think it’s unfortunate that people would react to such a spectacular gift in this way.

On the other hand, today it only cost a minute. If a large number of emergency patients showed up, it could create serious delays. And if two showed up at the same time, it could become difficult for the Church to decide the correct order. Everyone else who came today did not need help right away. This patient did. One of the EMTs said he expected to be reprimanded for bringing his patient to Mr. Nnkoba. But if that become standard procedure, we could be in for some trouble.

At about 7:00 the Congregation at Central Park announced that Mr. Nnkoba was exhausted and would be leaving. They said he would be back tomorrow morning. There was some grumbling as he left.

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March 5th, 8:05 a.m.
Television Broadcast, WNYC TV News

Sommers:
This morning we’re happy to have with us Pastor Richard Smith, Senior Pastor of The Congregation in Central Park Church. Pastor Smith, welcome!

Smith:
Please, call me Rick.

Sommers:
Of course, Rick. What brings you to our studio this morning?

Smith:
Leslie, I’ve heard nothing but good things about your coverage of the events surrounding Mtembo’s miraculous gift. We needed to get some information out to the public, and I couldn’t think of a better way to share it.

Sommers:
Well, that’s very kind of you to say, Rick. What is it that people need to know?

Smith:
First, I want to address the unfortunate situation yesterday with Mr. Weston. I believe your station had him on camera?

Sommers:
That’s right. Mark Jacobs interviewed him live in Central Park.

Smith:
I’m very sorry that we couldn’t find some way to help him. When he asked Mtembo to pray without using the name of Jesus, Mtembo really didn’t know what to do. He laid his hands on Mr. Weston, but nothing happened. He said the words without the phrase, “in the name of Jesus,” but nothing happened. He then told us that God’s instructions to him were to lay his hands on a person and repeat the words, “It is the Father’s good pleasure to make you home, in the name of Jesus, by the power of the Holy Spirit.” He’s been faithful to use those words and everyone he’s touched has been healed. God didn’t seem to want to move in any other way.

Sommers:
Does it seem reasonable that God would insist on a specific formula to heal people?

Smith:
I don’t want to speculate too much on that, Leslie. I prepare 30 to 45 minute sermons expounding on possible interpretations of Biblical texts that everyone can read and study. I didn’t hear what God said to Mtembo, and God didn’t grant me a vision explaining what He was thinking. Trying to interpret the events in a short studio interview will probably create more confusion than anything. All I can say is that we genuinely want to help anyone who comes to us. For now, there seems to be only one way to do that.

Sommers:
Anyone at all?

Smith:
That’s right, Leslie. Mtembo wasn’t told to refuse anyone. We aren’t asking any qualifying questions. We aren’t even asking people if they need healing, although I think we can assume they aren’t waiting in line for any other reason. When you get to Mtembo, he will lay his hands on you and repeat his phrase. When he does, God will heal you. There are no questions asked, no conditions to be met. We see this as similar to Salvation. It is a gift God has given to all. All you have to do is come receive it.

But Mtembo only knows one way to do what he’s been called to do. We have too many people waiting in line to experiment with options. And we meant what we said. If Mr. Weston comes back, we will take him to the front of the line.

Sommers:
Does your Church preach that homosexuality is a sin?

Smith:
We don’t want this to be about our Church, Leslie. We’re not evangelizing. We’re not advertising our services. We don’t even have a sign with our name on it by the Lawn. We don’t want to focus attention on anything other than what God is doing. God is doing amazing things, and that’s what people need to pay attention to.

Sommers:
What kinds of things?

Smith:
I believe you saw the veteran who had his foot grow back. One woman said her throat was cured of cancer. Last night she called the Church and told us that the doctors found her tonsils, which she’d had removed when she was five. They were right there in her throat functioning normally. A man with kidney problems who had to go through dialysis on a regular basis not only had his kidneys healed, but his appendix was restored. It had been surgically removed, but the doctors tell him it’s back. When Mtembo says it’s the Father’s pleasure to see you whole, he doesn’t just mean healed of whatever you came for. Your body will be restored the way it should be. That’s the story. The focus is on God’s miraculous work, not our Church, not Mtembo, not sin.

Sommers:
You said you had something else to share?

Smith:
Yes. Leslie. We’re still struggling with the best way to let Mtembo touch as many people as possible. His endurance amazed all of us, yesterday. He saw more than 1,000 people before the day was out. He’ll go as long as he can today. He wants to be able to heal as many people as possible. We know some people were unhappy at having to lose their place in line when we stopped last night, and we’re trying to figure out what to do about that. We also know people were unhappy when we let the ambulance patient go to the front of the line. As far as we knew, if he had waited he would have died. So we decided to let him go to the front, and he lived and nobody else died because of that.

Today we will have a licensed medical professional talk to everyone who believes they need to be pulled to the front of the line in that way. If he thinks the situation is dire, we will let that person go to the front of the line. We appreciate how this makes those who are waiting feel, but we ask that they all understand that some situations are literally life and death. If you can wait, we will get to you as soon as we can. If you can’t wait, we will let you go to the front of the line. We will do everything we can to treat everyone we can. Please be patient and understanding and we will get to you.

Sommers:
Thank you, Rick. Do you have time to answer a couple of questions for us?

Smith:
I’ll do my best.

Sommers:
Will Mr. Nkoba agree to an interview?

Smith:
He’s said he would rather not. If he has time and energy, he wants to be healing. Maybe after this gift is gone he would be willing to talk with you. I don’t know. But for now, he doesn’t want to take time away from the people he can heal.

Sommers:
How long will he be have this gift?

Smith:
We don’t know. Mtembo was told that he was to heal, “until you can no longer.” God didn’t explain what that meant. So we know this will end at some point, but we don’t know how that will work.

Sommers:
It’s been a pleasure meeting you, Rick. Thank you for taking time to talk with us.

Smith:
Thank you for letting me come by, Leslie. Give my regards to Sam when you see him next.

Sommers:
I will do that. And now with a look at this morning’s commute...

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