The Goshen Stone Chamber in Goshen
Posted on 11/29/2012 1:04:15 PM PST by Theoria
Many New England communities have within them dirt-covered stone “mounds,” dug into the earth and meticulously lined and covered with stones; some of the stones that cover the tops weigh tons. Some would say they are the remnants of root cellars, but an Ashfield man who for 15 years has studied the ancient stonework thinks otherwise.
James E. Vieira, a stonemason, writer and Northeast Antiquities Research Association member, believes there is ample evidence that Ancient America was a melting pot of races from other lands, noting that other parts of the country have ancient stone ruins. He says the mound builders may be behind stone construction in the Northeast because their skeletal remains with anatomical abnormalities are found here just are like the skeletal remains in other earthen mounds.
Mound builders are believed to have been prehistoric inhabitants of North America who, during a 5,000-year period, constructed various styles of earthen mounds for religious, ceremonial, burial and elite residential purposes.
“It’s the most enigmatic earthwork on the planet,” Vieira told an audience who had gathered in Buckland at Mohawk Trail Regional High School for his presentation, “The Search for the Mysterious Stone Builders of New England,” part of Franklin Land Trust’s year-long 25th anniversary celebration.
Vieira has spent thousands of hours researching mounds throughout the world—some geometric earthen constructions 50 acres and larger, and he has been amazed by the mathematical and engineering sophistication used to construct them. Some mounds are shaped like undulating serpents; one in Ohio is a quarter-mile long.
“Monk’s Mound is an earthen pyramid at Cahokia, Ill.; it has a base of 14 acres (one acre larger than the great pyramid) is 100 feet high and is comprised of 22 million cubic yards of earth brought from over a mile away,” he explained. “You find the same mathematics and geometry in the American earthworks like the 51.84 slope angle of the great pyramid and the 187 foot grid pattern found at Teotihuacan in Mexico.”
Some mounds have been opened and in them found artifacts of antiquity: tools, pipes, carvings, tablets and jewelry.
“The mound builders were a very sophisticated culture we know very little about,” Vieira said. “But this is not a scattered, nomadic people,” and they had a keen understanding of astronomy as evidenced by their stonework that marks equinoxes and solstices.
Vieira uses town records, historical accounts, carbon dating, astro-archaeological findings, astronomical orientations and oral histories in his research into the lost civilizations of ancient America and the mysterious ceremonial stone landscape of the Northeast.
His presentation included a power point of local sites, including stone chambers, turtle effigies, serpent walls and cairn fields in Franklin and Hampshire counties.
Though he said many archaeologists say the stonework is “colonial ruins,” Vieira disputes that. For one reason, these structures are not connected to a colonial foundation, he said.
In addition, some of the chambers built into the mounds are too narrow or inaccessible to have been used for root cellars, and they have roof openings which make it impossible to store food.
In Montville, Conn., there is a 38-foot stone chamber. “I don’t know what it is, but I can tell you what it’s not,” he said, adding that another chamber in Upton, Mass., has a 14-foot tunnel. One 25-by-25-foot mound in Putney, Vt., had carbon-dates remains from 492 A.D. “At the Putney chamber, you have to enter through the roof down seven feet,” Vieira said.
One cairn in Andover contained artifacts like an ax, javelin and hammer that were carbon dated to 2000 B.C., he said.
Vieira is quick to name other New England locations with ancient stone work, among them Goshen, Southwick, New Salem, Shutesbury and Belchertown in Massachusetts, South Woodstock, Vt., and Ledyard, Conn. Putnam County, New York, has more than 150 chambers, he said.
Some stonework – including cairns, dolmens, balanced rocks, walls and stone turtle effigies – has been destroyed as farmers cleared fields or stones were reused for other purposes.
Researching who these “mound builders” were, Vieira found an 1848 statement from Abraham Lincoln’s meditation on Niagara Falls in 1848: “The eyes of that extinct species of giant, whose bones fill the mounds of America, have gazed on Niagara as our eyes do now.”
These “giants” were seven to 12 feet tall, and Vieira has uncovered more than 2,000 accounts of them, what he called “a forgotten race.” Some accounts—from Smithsonian reports, magazines, newspapers and town histories—reveal the skeletal remains had double rows of teeth or other anatomical abnormalities.
Such accounts have come from Gill, Montague, Northfield, Hadley, Chelmsford, Middleboro, Martha’s Vineyard and Rockingham, Vt., Concord, N.H., and Hartford and Trumbull, Conn., among others.
Vieira contends that there were races in New England as well as Native Americans who created ancient stonework. “Native American oral history all around the country clearly speaks of a race of giants that existed in the lands when their tribes arrived,” he said.
His plans for the future include making a documentary film and pitching it to PBS or the History Channel. He is also working on a book.
The Goshen Stone Chamber in Goshen
The interior of the Goshen Stone Chamber in Goshen
Giants, mound builders, etc. etc.
I’d think they were homes, dwelling places.
Safe, insulated, somewhat hidden.
this theory will never be supported by either the education establishment of the elite media
it doesn’t support liberal talking points supporting native american as 1st people here and thus the rightful owners of this continent. Being just another interloper like the evil white man does not play well with the elites. you could produre a full undecomposed body with a complete written history and they would blame Bush.
As a point of policy, most U. S. museums no longer have exhibits that include Native American human remains. The only time that this skull from Morhiss may have been on display was in the exhibit that the WPA lab arranged while the excavations were underway.
You asked about relevant information; I can only cite the early observations, as there are no new studies on that particular skull.
Physical anthropologist Marcus S. Goldstein says in his manuscript, "A couple of unusual crania were unearthed at Morhiss Mound in Victoria County. One of these, although much mended and its base quite warped, is nevertheless obviously a skull of extraordinary size, in many respects larger than any yet reported. The bones of this individual do not indicate excessive stature, but they are remarkably robust and plainly point to a very muscular man. The possibility of abnormality, perhaps an endocrine disturbance, arose immediately, but the largeness of the skull seems to be symmetrical, the hand bones do not show the 'knobbing' typical of acromegaly, and stature was evidently in no wise unusual. Moreover, other crania from the same site approximate the skull in question. Hence, it is my opinion that this exceptionally large skull was not the result of endocrine pathology."
I hope this provides sufficient information.Carolyn
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| From: Carolyn Spock [mailto:c.spock@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: 10. February 2010 08:14 To: Terje Dahl Regarding: Re: Giant human skull It would appear that the post-cranial material wasn't out of the ordinary, though definitely robust. No extra digits were noted in Duffen's field form for the burial, though he does say that the "skull seems large" and that he "looks like a large individual to begin with." Goldstein mentions the lack of "knobbing" in the hand bones in his description; I'm sure extra fingers would have been noted. The unusual can certainly be blown out of proportion; the last paragraph in the newspaper article stating that finds "in Texas are beginning to give weight to the theory that man lived in Texas 40,000 to 45,000 years ago" is fantastical even today. Carolyn |
I was in Northfield in the 60’s. There were ancestors of these Sasquatch tribes still infesting root cellars.
The Jim Vieira video you posted above was VERY Interesting.
I’ve never heard of this before....hmm...
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Have you ever heard of the Si-Te-Cah? They were said to be the ancient enemies of the Paiute. Some of the stories said the Si-Te-Cah were red-haired giants. Charles Fort or Ivan Sanderson had some stories about giant skulls with double dentition found in Utah around Pyramid Lake if I remember the stories correctly.
“... The mummies belonged to a very tall people — well over six feet and some up to seven feet tall — who had red hair. It was obvious that they were not the remains of any known Indian tribal people. Still, the miners went to the local Indians, the Paiutes, to see if they knew anything about the bodies and to see if they wanted to claim them.
Far from claiming them, the Paiutes said they were ancient enemies of their people. They called them troublemakers who towered over the native people — the Si-Te-Cah...
Big foot?
Jim Vieira - Mysterious Stone Chambers & Giant Skeletons
Mysterious Stone Chambers of New England- Jim Vieira
Jim Vieira’s talk removed from Internet [Tedx Shelburne Falls]
http://tedxshelburnefalls.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/jim-vieiras-talk-removed-from-internet/
Updating the ping message, and adding that I've watched the two available episodes on History Channel, via Roku (iow, free). HC leaves a real stink on these kinds of shows, but they are still interesting. The brothers start out using sonar or radar to look for a buried structure in one place, but don't use that method when they get to the Goshen passage grave (it's obviously what it is, no point in using other terminology). I think HC will probably pull that with each episode, trying some other super-duper technique to uncover absolutely nothing. Not that I don't think there's stuff to be found, but finding something would be like the moment The Fugitive Stopped Running.
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