[Gaffer]

Erick...

Never went to your site anyway. From the times I heard you on the radio, you were always name dropping the trying too hard to be relevant. It turns out you aren’t and you have nothing of value to say, anyway...

Good luck with than asswipe.

[lowbridge]

You want to live under Obamacare and obamas executive orders?

[fwdude]

When American becomes the Socialist Atheistic States of America, we are no longer Americans.

[from occupied ga]

We here at RedState are American citizens. We have no plans to secede from the union

And I should give a rat's ass what the people at redstate.com think and plan because?

[WKUHilltopper]

“If you do, good luck with that, but this is not the place for you.”

How you gonna fix it? Run, yet another, RINO?

[Longbow1969]

Erick is right. We did not lose the election because of voter fraud. We are not going to secede from the union. This sort of loopy talk gets us nowhere.

[all the best]

“The union” is an abstraction. My life and the lives of my family and friends are real. All of us look at the European Union and see what a disaster it is. There is no way that such a diverse population living in such a expansive continental mass can be tied together and rules from one city in any way conducive to life, liberty and prosperity.

[snowrip]

I think we are at a point in American history where we actually have to make choices to cut our losses and man the lifeboats. The ship is sinking, and the liberals just put another big hole in the hull.

Conservative Americans have done their best for forty years, but there isn't anything else that we can do now that liberalism has been embraced by the very same people that we elected to defend us from it. Personally, I'm done trying to make a difference... it doesn't matter any more, and there are too damn many idiots making holes in the fabric of our society to waste my time.

I believe in America. I also believe that there are a great many people within our borders and within our government that are actively working to not only bring America to her knees, but to severely punish her and anyone who believes in her. This movement has been growing for the better part of a century, and until recently there were a majority of Americans who opposed it.

When those we elect to be our allies in government forsake their sworn duty to defend the Constitution, there is no chance for us to stand as a free country... and it is better to cut off the dying limb than to kill the host by allowing it to remain.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

[all the best]

As an American the collective doesn’t mean a whole lot to me.

[Huskrrrr]

All of us on FR have probably made it to Obamas’ enemies list. If there is a short version of that list...we’re on it.

[INVAR]

We no longer have a union of free and independent states as intended by the Founders.

We no longer have a union of ‘American states’ - whereby we are a whole nation of one people.

We are become a nation of takers and makers. Slaves to the federal Marxist regime - or a walking target to be mugged and fleeced.

Without secession - we willingly knuckle under enemy occupation and accept the rule of Marxist overlords over every aspect of our life. We surrender our lives to the whims of tyrants in power. We forfeit our obligation to God and will be forced to worship the state.

Without secession, you’ve chosen slavery to the State - because there is no other option.

We either refuse to submit to their rule, defy compliance and resist - or we go to mass death in chains.

Enjoy your servitude and eventual elimination Erick.

[libertarian neocon]

The fact that Erickson brought up Grant and Sherman and the old Confederacy is kind of proof that he is trying too hard to appease the liberals/RINO’s. People are talking about seceding but not because they want to bring back the Old Confederacy and slavery. They are talking about it so we can have a country based on freedom again. What is wrong with that? It might be loopy but there is nothing immoral or wrong about it.

I lost a lot of respect for Erickson when he didn’t endorse anyone in the primaries. He kept just complaining about all the candidates and in the end did nothing to help the situation. Maybe if he endorsed a real conservative, the primaries would have ended differently.

[Tenacious 1]

I’m going to need more convincing. Here’s why:

Sucession is essentially “giving up.” Sucession is defeatist. I acknowldedge that it is represents the end of “The Great Experiment.” I am also the most patriotic person I know. I am love this country, the heritage, the history and the values on which it was founded. Millions of brave souls have sacrificed with their lives to uphold those American Values. They were unique values then as they are today when you brush the dust off of what we originally stood for. The defence of individual liberty and freedom from tyranical government is what our founders stood for. It’s what I hold most dear and what I stand for today. I believe in the American Spirit of the hard working and innovative American Citizen to use his/her work ethic, intelligence, talent and honor to make a nice living for himself and those around him/her.

I also believe we America has reached the tipping point which very well may prohibit the return to the values and governance that our founders originally established. When more than 50% of the nation is more worried about what the government can or might take away from them, then 50% will always vote their own best interest. We don’t feed bears in Yellowstone because we know that it causes dependence and that is bad for them. If they stop foraging and teaching their offspring how to survive, we must feed them and the generations of bears that follow.

We are generations into the dependency/nanny state that we have voted for. We are Europe now. America voted for more stuff out of fear of having stuff taken away or reduced. I don’t see how you educate the population about what America is supposed to be and the correct role of the Federal Government convincingly enough to change their lifestyles. Our education system is teaching and encouraging dependency while rewriting American history to water down or all together avoid what was once a proud American Culture of exceptionalism. The individual has been been relugated to a simple and unimportant cog in the progressive wheel.

Our nation, by this vote, accepts mediocrity and is against individual greatness, prosperity, innovation and wealth. I have lost faith that America will ever reverse this course now as we are on the downhill slide now. It will become easier and easier for liberals to win elections as nothing is sacred with regards to our constitution. The checks and balances of governance outlined in our constitution are now corrupted and precedence is being established that makes nothing “unconstitutional.” The people have given enough power to our government that they no longer have the power to change it idealistically.

We are a nanny state now. I would support legal sucession until someone can convince me that the American Voters have the will to reverse this course we are on. I understand the consequences and the ramifications of my position.

But I have lost faith that America will be able to return to the greatness we once knew. I do not believe we will ever see real unemployment back down around 6%. The opportunities in America for individuals to “build great things” is so diminished as to thwart the motivation to invest the effort.

I stand willing to reconsider and want to believe otherwise. My heart aches when I think of my children’s future. I am crushed at all the sacrifice spent by our ancestors to build and for a brief time sustain America as the world’s lone Superpower. America’s cause has been noble if not sometimes tainted by poor execution (vietnam, Korea, etc.) I want to believe our future is bright and our best years are still ahead of us. I want to maintain that image of America as the Shining City on the Hill.

I just don’t see the big picture that gets America back to greatness.

Change my mind, please.

[formosa]

Seems to me that conservatives should at least be considering moving themselves and their businesses out of blue states. Just in case were are left with no other options but to secede. We definitely want to be somewhere there is safety.

[chrisnj]

Redstate bans ‘birthers’ from day 1.
Now they call themselves ‘Americans’ shunning those who want to exercise their constitutional rights to secede?

Redstates, some Americans! First they refuse to uphold Constitution article 2, now they side with the usurper, anti-American obama who occupies the oval office illegally and who sends his criminal voters to steal another election!

Redstat, no better than the lamestream media! At least the lamestream are honest in what they try to do. Redstate is even more hypocritical than the usurper they aid and abett!

[chrisnj]

What do you think happened at the beginning when the revolutionary fought their own country, gave up their British citizenship and found this Constitutional
Republic ? -

they seceded!!!

If they had thought the way many are thinking now, there would have been no USA!