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1 posted on 11/08/2012 11:32:41 AM PST by wolfman23601
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Out of all that, property tax going skyhigh is one of the worst.

In theory a person could get some land, a house, and just live simply, but if they make it unaffordable to even own property, then that is the true fulfillment of the collective.

I would suggest anyone thinking of moving out “to the country” to take into account which states are turning more purple, like VA, FL, NC, CO etc, and possibly avoid them. Look at which areas have low property tax and aren’t turning Blue. Even if an area in VA, CO has low Prop Tax now, they might explode as those states turn more Blue.

Some things are avoidable with dramatic steps, but Property Tax attacks one of the main planks of freedom...and the freedom of the hermit...so to speak.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 11:39:04 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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I would too rather see the Bush Tax Cuts all be allowed to expire on everyone than to have them made permanent for just those making nder $250,000 per year.. People want a welfare state, they need to feel the pain of paying for it. The entire country is gong the way of Detroit and California. If it happens faster rather than slower, people may be shocked awake. The GOP House needs to go all in on the Bush tax cuts. Either they are all made permanent, or none of them.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 11:39:40 AM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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Elections have consequences!! Boehner stop all bills going through the house. The fiscal cliff will happen and huge tax increases will happen!!!!!


4 posted on 11/08/2012 11:43:07 AM PST by tallyhoe
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The problem with the current system is that some people actually try to make it in the free market economy while others just look to government to give them everything.

I’ve often thought it would be much more fair that if we are going to have socialism, just let it apply to everyone. At least that way, everyone would know where they stand.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 11:43:07 AM PST by NYCslicker
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Before you plunge into the abyss of State “relief” remember exactly who you’ll be dealing with... government employees. Your life will no longer be yours, your parental decisions will no longer be yours. And if the state decides they can do a better job at parenting they will take away your rights as easily as pulling your library card. Instead I propose you continue to be the best you can be. To invest in YOUR ideas and endure the coming crisis - where we, the Exceptional Americans will come out of this mess with head held high.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 11:44:28 AM PST by vivabushchick (Obama lies: The gift that keeps giving.)
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8 posted on 11/08/2012 11:45:05 AM PST by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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People don't understand what Obama and the socialists/democrats are doing. They keep growing government for a reason to achieve a socialist dictatorship. Obama will never leave the office of dictator now( These stalinists like Chavez always do this). They bribe people and the poor with freebies as long as you let them grow the government. Now obama is about to let the UN regulate the internet and our guns. In a few months they will take over our healthcare which will be the tipping point (romney said he would have left it to the states). So purists “conservatives” who stayed home ( 3 million less votes for Romney than Mccain) and campaigned against Romny have now installed Obama as furer for life.
9 posted on 11/08/2012 11:48:36 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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I agree 100 % with you raise all taxes. The stupid Californians just voted to raise taxes even though I didn’t, but like you I’ve changed my mind. Raise taxes on everybody.

Some in my family had owned their house bought in the 60s and had low property taxes under prop 13—they all voted for the communist in the white house. Now the California Legislature has a super majority—rats, of course and now (excuse me while I ROTFLMAO) the dems want to overturn prop 13, they will find their taxes increase ten fold!!! hahahahahaha!


10 posted on 11/08/2012 11:48:36 AM PST by notaliberal (We are all communist's now!)
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"I am now an all of the above kind of guy"

I have an idea. How about Food Stamps for all! That would be fair. They have Health Care for all... With Food Stamps for all!!!
11 posted on 11/08/2012 11:49:25 AM PST by Democrats hate too much
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‘America...down the latrine in 2013!’


14 posted on 11/08/2012 11:50:55 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Maybe Obama really did cheat his way through this election.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:21 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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The Dems will certainly bring in a VAT tax if they ever get full control again. And it doesn’t appear in Europe that they create enough of a backlash to ever get repealed.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:54 AM PST by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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Food Stamps for ALL!!

We all need Health Care, right? We all need food, right? ...ha, maybe we should require all businesses to provide Food Stamps for their employees! That's another idea too.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 11:54:39 AM PST by Democrats hate too much
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So purists “conservatives” who stayed home ( 3 million less votes for Romney than Mccain) and campaigned against Romney have now installed Obama as dicttator for life. Obama will grow the government so much to reach the tipping point where he can become dictator ( as Chavez did). So all the purists and those that didn’t vote or voted for 3r party gave our country , our liberty and our lives over to a peice of crap called Obama .


20 posted on 11/08/2012 11:56:46 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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I have said the same before and waffle back and forth. It’s hard to fix a flat tire when it is still turning and on the car.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 11:57:47 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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I Have Changed My Political Position

"I will alert the Media."

23 posted on 11/08/2012 12:00:23 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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We can strive to starve this government into crashing...let the democrats do as they wish with taxes and regulation...lower your economic footprint to as small as possible for a few years. Indeed, focus on dealing in cash or barter with like minded people. We are the productive ones under which the engine of the economy runs...I say let it run out of gas!


24 posted on 11/08/2012 12:02:48 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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What if we had undercover candidates who could run saying liberal things (in blue places) and even out liberal the Dem candidate, sort of like you are saying. MORE free stuff for MORE people. Totally open borders. Then, once elected, they could “evolve”, never enacting any of these things, but giving limp lip service, “I tried so hard”. Do that for a cycle, get back in, get seniority and ultimately do an Arlen Specter. If timed all at once, the entire apparatus could be flipped all at once, enacting the right stuff early enough after an election for it to have worked by the next cycle.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:29 PM PST by Anima Mundi (You can lead a brain to facts but you can't make it think.)
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I hate to break the bad news, but we already live in a socialist country. Do you think the number of starving people in this country doubled in four years? Nope. The food stamp program isn’t about feeding hungry people, it’s about redistributing wealth. We are now buying the groceries for the people who vote Democrat. And honestly, how many people do you know that can’t work because they’re disabled? Is it the millions more on social security disability? The government is taking hard-earned taxpayer money and giving it to Democrats so they don’t have to work and so they’ll vote Democrat. And what about all those black and Hispanic and female make-believe pig farmers who each received $50,000 hard earned taxpayer money and they couldn’t tell you whether you feed a hog grass or oats. Oh, yeah, we already are a socialist nation. The Democrats have just been calling it by different names.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 12:52:08 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Want to rant about something?
Try this:
In Texas, the illegals get WIC and Lone Star card benefits. (welfare)
They use the Lone Star card to buy food.
Some of these ladies are real entrepreneurs.
Because there are multiples working in the one household, they use the benefit cards to buy food at WALMART.
Sometimes the monthly total is $1000-$1500 per lady.
They use the card to buy chicken, nothing but chicken.
Can you imagine how many baskets it takes to haul out $1500 worth of frozen pollo? (chicken to you, gringo)
Then they take that to their restaurant and sell it to their customers.
Either in sit down cafe type places, or by selling it out of their trunks at job sites. Government support at its finest. They pay no taxes to the feds, its a huge profit chain.
The old roach coach feed trucks can’t compete. They had to be licensed and pay taxes.
Taxes? they don’t pay no stinking taxes.....
Come to Texas where the money is free (for some) and the illegals no pay taxes....
Sanctuary city Fort Worth TX.
Wish I could franchise these trunk monkey burrito dealers.....


40 posted on 11/08/2012 12:53:39 PM PST by 9422WMR (Life is not fair, just deal with it)
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