Posted on 11/07/2012 4:00:45 AM PST by goodn'mad
I hear ya. My friends and I spent the 1990’s trying to elect a government in our city that would do something about the high crime and taxes that are driving people out of the city. A huge number of city voters do not pay taxes, and receive government benefits, and, I suspect, are either criminals themselves, or are related to criminals, and have no desire for effective law enforcement.
Five years ago, my wife and I got tired of waking up to nearby drive-by shootings, and we moved out of the city. I still have my business in the city, and if I could sell this building, I’d move my business out of the city.
We also were involved in trying to get people elected to state and national office who would value freedom. We failed there, even in electing W.
We can’t yet afford to retire, and the proverb about not being able to control the wind, but we can adjust our sails, applies. We cannot worry about what we cannot control, only our behavior and our response. We have to look ahead and look to what we can control, and how to make the best of it.
I suspect that there will be a lot of John Galt responses, and there are a lot of ways we can do that. Many businesses have already done that by refusing to invest in expansion until there is some predictability in taxes and regulations. They may stay on strike for the forseeable future.
I’m looking for expansion. I have an accounting firm, My job is to legally deprive the government of every dime to which it is not legally entitled. I intend to profit from the voters’ stupidity.
“Sarah would have won in a walk.”
She didn’t run.
Arm yourself, and arm your mind.
I’m not insulted by your comments but this is how I see it regarding Social Security and Medicare. I didn’t ask to sign up for either one of them but have been paying through the nose for them since I was 16 years old. If offered the chance to opt out of either of them I probably would have taken it but the government imposed them on me without my consent. Now that I’m approaching the end of my working years I refuse to feel guilty about taking what I’ve been paying for all these years. And I have seriously considered that if we’d all give up Social Security benefits that it would reduce the deficit...until I remember that regardless of how much we give to politicians they will find a way to squander it. No thanks.
I wasn’t trying to make you feel guilty. The point is that adding yours, eventually mine, and everybody elses medicare social security and all the other myriad programs the government writes checks for has an extending effect on the status quo.
The status quo keeps us from a more constitutional form of government.
The argument that one check is more deserving of payment than another is a red herring. They will stop, and we will have a brief moment to contemplate if we want to return to a constitutional basis for governance. That moment needs to be planned for.
Hitler even in the rigged ‘34 elections didn’t win more than 43% of the votes. Obama did...
and most erstwhile third world countries are clawing their way out of it -- ironically by rejecting the same socialism that we are embracing.
But she didn’t stand. No point saying “if she stood” — she didn’t. I don’t know why, but she didn’t...
Welfare in the West is a pyramid scheme. you paid for your elders and so do we
the problem is that
1.there are less working for more retired
2. The welfare schemes were designed for people to live only 5 to 10 years of retirement, whereas people live longer now
3. the government didn't keep the money separately but used it to pay for other things
Net result, the scheme WILL fail, the only question is when.
I have always paid for my health insurance but now I will have to pay a Cadillac tax on my plan because I PAY for my plan. If I had just not paid for health insurance, invested the money and just went to the ER I would be way ahead. But that is not who I am and that WAS not the America I was brought up in.
We are now in a new dimension where rules are selectively applied.
Yeah, except I am not from Vermont.
And, Sarah is old, washed up news. No one wants to hear from her. She is more self centered and narcissistic than the Kenyan. Her life is reality TV, and she loves it that way. Not really the way to run the free world.
So, yes....deluded is probably accurate.
You don’t think obama and his gang are going to go after Texas?
“The 2nd Amendment asks no permission - we were all pre-approved by our Creator.”
Correct - but if you carry a handgun in Konnecticut without a carry permit and get caught - you go to jail and lose ALL of your firearms.
Untill the end comes I want to be able to defend myself when I’m about town without getting harrassed by the police.
When the end comes (and we will all know when it is that time) it will not matter - I will die rather than have some union thug take my guns. Untill then I play by their rules.
“The problem is that either your generation or mine (30 somethings) will be paying and not getting anything.”
I’m not yet 50, I suspect that neither of us will get a dime, but that, again, is not the point. The point is that until the system does collapse and the checks stop, there will be no holding back the socialist tide.
Republicans don’t even try anymore, it’s so unpopular - and it didn’t matter who we nominated. The GOP is merely for a slower approach to socialism.
You’re right about this: “Net result, the scheme WILL fail, the only question is when.”
It could fail gradually or suddenly. The politics of last night say it’s going to be suddenly.
Perhaps you're right. Like many Americans; I am pretty angry this morning.
What has happened to this country? The 47%'s have taken over and now will make the rest of us pay and go broke so they can have their freebies !!
To think zero got reelected ? In this economy ? I would love to attribute it all to voter fraud -- and while I'm sure there is some, that isn't the answer.
I know Romney wasn't the perfect candidate, but for conservatives and republicans to just sit it out ? To prove what ? Didn't the last 4 years tell us anything ? The socialists/communists didn't do this to us overnight, it was a slow drip. If we want to take this country back, it would probably have to be the same way. To sit out an election this important ? Yes, Romney isn't as conservative as I would have liked, but at least he loves this country.
The next 4 years will, mostly likely, bury the America we have known for good. obamacare will have it's tentacles so deep that it will never be able to be removed. And our military ? That will be decimated and I'm sure we will see al queida at our doorsteps very soon as they know the muslim-in-chief will not stop them.
I have wept for my country, but it is what it is. I do not believe we will see a conservative, let alone Republican president for years (if ever again).
Going galt now. We moved from Minnesota to Wyoming last year (best decision ever made) and bought a house and did some moderate renovations to it. We were planning a big addition, but no more. Values are going to plummet here once zero succeeds at wiping out coal in this state and Wyoming is #1 in coal. zero won't care that electricity will skyrocket and in the future, we will long for the gas/electric prices we see today.
Was planning on some new hires (after the election) for my small business, but no longer. Cannot afford to and will make do with what we have (or less). I am not optimistic for the future.
Definitely in a doom and gloom mood today. Good luck to everyone, we will need it.
“It is time for a new party. With new leaders. The old ones just don’t work.”
Thats what I texted my Grandson as soon as the election was called.
The United States of America
Date of Birth: July 4,1776
Date of Demise: November 6, 2012
Cause of Demise: OBAMACIDE
Are you sure the totals are final? Usually the West Coast states and Hawaii and Alaska take several days to a few weeks to get added to the total popular vote.
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