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To: Lee'sGhost
Lee Ghost: "Sorry you wasted time with unrelated charts, because you’re totally missing the point."

No, those charts are totally on point, to the question of whether the South has always been a bastion of support for conservative, limited Federal government.
The answer is "no, for many years the solid Democrat South cheered on the march of Liberal-Progressive-Socialism under presidents like Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt."

Lee's Ghost: "Federalism led to weakening of state rights and strong state governments which naturally lead to stronger and stronger central governance which, taken to its ultimate conclusion, allows socialism to thrive and for Marxists to be elected president."

Beginning not with Lincoln, but with Progressives around 1900.
And for many decades, the solid-Democrat South cheered-on growing Federal power and wealth redistribution.

Finally, you used the word "Federalism", which has actual historical meaning, and should not be taken out of its proper context.
In 1787 and 1788 "Federalists" were the Founders who wrote and supported ratification of the new Constitution, versus "anti-Federalists" who wanted a weaker central government.

After 1790, "Federalists" were a political party opposed to Jefferson's "Democratic-Republicans".
By today's standards, the old Federalists would be considered "super conservatives", but at the time, they were simply a few years ahead in advocating what Jefferson's party eventually came to support.

For examples, while Jefferson opposed the First Bank of the United States, after it expired in 1811 his protegee, President Madison, signed the Second Bank into law in 1816.

For another, Jefferson is often touted as a "strict constructionist", but even Jefferson knew the Louisiana purchase was not constitutionally authorized.

167 posted on 10/25/2012 12:20:22 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

Again, thanks for answering questions that weren’t asked. Maybe you can find a chart showing number of village idiots who post irrelevant charts on FR. The number of answers for unrelated unasked questions must be limitless.

Have fun!


171 posted on 10/25/2012 5:38:31 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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