Your link has nothing to do with roy Masters at all. Sorry you cannot see that through your real judgment. you and others should take a good look at these passages which totally back me up...
1 Pet. 2:11 ABSTAIN FROM FLESHLY LUST, which war against the soul
1 Pet. 2:21 CHRIST also suffered for us, Leaving us an example, that YE SHOULD FOLLOW HIS STEPS
1 Pet. 2:22 WHO DID NO SIN
1 Pet. 4:1 He that hath suffered in the flesh HATH CEASED FROM SIN
1 Pet. 4:2 NO LONGER should LIVE the rest of his time IN THE FLESH to the lusts of men, but to the will of GOD
2 Pet. 2:4 If GOD SPARED NOT THE ANGELS THAT SINNED, but cast them down to hell
2 Pet. 2:5 AND SPARED NOT THE OLD WORLD, but saved Noah
2 Pet. 2:6 MAKING THEM AN ENSAMPLE unto those that after should live ungodly
2 Pet. 2:9 THE LORD KNOWETH HOW TO DELIVER THE GODLY OUT OF TEMPTATIONS
1 John 1:7 THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST HIS SON CLEANSETH US FROM ALL SIN
1 John 1:9 AND TO CLEANSE US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS
1 John 2:1 THAT YE SIN NOT,
1 John 2:6 HE THAT SAITH HE ABIDETH IN HIM OUGHT himself also so TO WALK, EVEN AS HE WALKED
1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him SINNETH NOT
1 John 3:8 HE THAT COMMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL
1 John 3:9 WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN
1 John 3:10 Whosoever DOTH NOT righteousness IS NOT OF GOD
1 John 5:18 Whosoever IS BORN OF GOD SINNETH NOT
2 John 9 Whosoever TRANSGRESSETH, AND ABIDETH NOT in the doctrine of Christ, HATH NOT GOD
3 John 11 He that DOETH GOOD IS OF GOD, but he that DOETH EVIL HATH NOT SEEN GOD AND THERE SHALL IN NO WISE ENTER INTO IT ANYTHING THAT DEFILETH, NEITHER WHATSOEVER WORKETH ABOMINATION OR MAKETH A LIE
So you see, you guys can be free of sin but WILL not in your willful ignorance and huge excuse making to the point of vilifying Roy Masters who provides a simple pathway to that salvation which is indeed Biblical.
A mere bunch of words!!
Words are great when they are used to impart truth and not used from the Bible to make excuses for sin. That was a really poor response. ..but I expect nothing more from you. Have a good one!
And if both true, then 1) being born of God does grant us a new nature with a power over sin we did not have before, but 2) we also continue to have fights with our old nature, and we can lose those fights. This fits perfectly with the teaching of Paul in Romans 6-7 concerning our old nature, which he links to our mortal flesh. We have many deficiencies. Even the universe itself is in a state of decay due to the curse.
The hard truth is, many scars of our spiritual disease remain and will remain until the renewal of creation at the end of this age. We are free from the root cause of death, yet we still die. We are free from the root cause of all disease, and God sometimes heals us, sometimes even raises Lazarus from death. But we still get sick. Lazarus, as far as anyone knows, died a second time.
We have been redeemed judicially. Christ died for our sin. Satan was defeated. Death was defeated. But the Lord means to build His church, to grow his saints, to teach us His ways, to deepen our faith, and raise our aspirations. And so we are also being redeemed daily from our sins, made cleaner and cleaner each step of the way.
Therefore John is right of course, when he says that those born of God cannot remain in continuous, open sin (that is the sense of the Greek). God’s spirit within a believer will never settle for spiritual stagnancy. A homosexual who believes they can continue in that sin and also abide in Christ is sadly mistaken. Or a person who believes they can continue coveting other people’s goods, or murdering unborn children, or carrying hatred in their heart toward some person or group of persons, or worshiping a multiplicity of gods or worshipping a false Christ, and everything will still turn out fine with God, is just kidding themselves. These are all examples of delusion. We are all called to repent and do what is right and believe what is right.
But just as Jeremiah saw the unfathomable deceitfulness of the human heart, so also King David, a man after God’s own heart, was worried about sins he sinned without even realizing it:
Psa 19:12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
Jesus gets to these kinds of sins in the sermon on the mount. They are not measured by your own sense of happiness or self-satisfaction, Fabian. It doesn’t matter how good or bad you feel about yourself. John says sin is the transgression of God’s law, and Jesus makes it clear that such sin comes from deep within the heart. Merely looking too long at a racy image on an FR thread can beget the sin of lust. Merely calling someone “dummy” can reflect the sin of pride. Merely applying a double standard will bring a charge of hypocrisy (BTW, in light of the Polycarp quote, will you admit your error regarding the deity of Christ being taught by the early church?).
But there is hope:
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
This is a present tense process. It happens every day. It needs to happen every day. Jesus illustrated it with Peter:
Joh 13:8 Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. [9] Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. [10] Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.
If we are forgiven of our sins in the death of Christ, we are clean before God. But while we live in these mortal bodies, we walk in the dust of the world, and carry about our old memories and our old nature, and every day our feet collect that dust of daily living, and daily we need to be washed. And he is only too happy to wash us. But only if we admit the need of it.
Peace,
SR