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To: Elsie

> Are you SURE you are not posting Scientology teachings?<

At least he is not that bad, and our criticisms of him do not mean he does not have some insight, though even Scientology can help some to a degree insofar as they employ Biblical principles, but it is his guru gospel and conversions into what some see mesmerized “roybots” that are not like what you see in Acts

The critiques of some of one his books are noteworthy, offsetting the raving of some fans.

One writes,

It’s too bad that Roy lives in such a castle unto himself. There might have been some real insights to be gained by a fair exchange with the man. That’s to say, discussions which are more of a talking across to, rather than up and down to. It’s great to help people in life, but never coming down from the paternal role is a form of escape of its own. As it is though, he’s got something which is placed as an inscrutable gift, which is how people tend to think of a Mystic. And to my mind, it builds an unfortunate wall of distance and yet, with a twist, brings down other interpersonal boundaries of the sort which tends to screws with peoples’ heads too much. Note how the Mystic (Roy) is loose and spontaneous, even unpredictable. The followers watch their step and tend to be doctrinaire, thick and rigid.

We’re supposed to be getting more objective, not more invested in mimicking charismatic people and magical thinking.

Unfortunately too, he tends to drift into a paranoid “Roy vs. the world” thing that gets tiring. It’s as though, if you disagree with him, you must be some velvet-tongued agent of the devil. This stance feels to me like a developmentally-stuck, grossly self-serving defense mechanism. - http://www.amazon.com/review/R2EVDSEI0Z9UH2/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0933900090&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=


119 posted on 09/18/2012 6:38:49 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; fabian
This stance feels to me like a... ...that could have come from most any of the MORMONs we are doing battle with on FR.

Same ignoring of the facts; especially the very words out of their own mouths!


 #10 He can be pretty strong also at times for sure but does not speak down to people.
 #18 What you did was a very liberal thing...hit piece.
 #24 How dare you slander s good man.
 #25 What dummies.....
 #33 Good lord you guys are so caught up in the apostasy
 #39 On the other hand I know you do as you are full of judgement thinking it is righteousness.
 #47 Because I am not mad and still call you guys very gullible dummies!
 #55 And He clearly shows me that you guys are pharisee type of dummies.
 #78 You cannot learn salvation and I also have not judged anyone.
 #81 you guys are the ones that came onto my thread and slandered and lied...
 #84 yeah, unfortunately you are the wolf...but have no clue.
 #93 O, I don’t mind comments, but you guys are into character assassination here.
 #94 These judgers don’t get it.
#101 o boy...you are one shallow person.
#107 oh my...you are really lost.
#118 wow...quite a judgment there
 

122 posted on 09/18/2012 7:03:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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