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Posted on 09/16/2012 11:52:44 AM PDT by fabian
Now celebrating 52 years of helping people on the radio! For over half a century Roy Masters has been helping people overcome their most difficult problems. As the nation’s first and longest running radio counselor, Roy Masters has advised callers with a unique ability to hear inner problems, heal fears and sexual stresses, and help people take charge of their own lives. Great show and exactly what the world needs! Here is a radio show stations page... http://www.fhu.com/radiostations.html
Here’s some more info on phylacteries:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12125-phylacteries
http://rekhavi.karaitejudaism.org/phylacteries.shtml
The first article has pictures. The second raises some interesting questions about how old the practice really is. They conclude it probably arose during the first or second century BC, which I believe corresponds to the rise of the Pharisees. In other words, yet another example of traditions of men usurping authority over the commandments of God. That there should be a later association with Cabbala and Gnosticism is not surprising. As one leaves behind the shelter of a childlike faith in God, just taking God’s word at face value, the need for alternate forms of spiritual protection arise, amulets, magic, techniques, etc.
Another good resource I found yesterday:
http://www.christiananswersforthenewage.org/Articles.html
One of the articles discusses Kabbalah:
“Kabbalah “predates and transcends” any religion or nation, according to Philip Berg of the Kabbalah Centre (Rav P. S. Berg, The Essential Zohar [NY: Bell Tower, Crown Publishing Group: 2002), 61, 211]. It is not about “rote obedience of laws and commands,” but is rather a spiritual tool to enable us to regain unity with God, “to reenter the Eden from which we were exiled” (Berg, 4). “Linear, mechanistic” ways of “rational thought” need to be set aside in order to fully grasp Kabbalah teachings (Berg, 3). Yehuda Berg states that Kabbalah is the “hidden wisdom” that has been kept secret for centuries but now this teaching is coming into the open for a society fraught with social and spiritual problems “
From (Yehuda Berg, The Power of the Kabbalah [Kabbalah Centre International, 2001], xix, xxv, xxvi).
Sounds eerily familiar, doesn’t it. And there’s that “rote” word again. Shows a common set of talking points.
Here’s some more discussion of “Be Still:”
http://www.christiananswersforthenewage.org/Articles_MeditationPsalm.html
http://www.christiananswersforthenewage.org/Articles_BeStillDVD.html
Of interest to our discussion:
“It is a Zen Buddhist concept that truth is beyond words (this is also a Taoist view; Zen’s roots are in Taoism and Buddhism). Zen teaches that truth must be realized as one practices sitting meditation (zazen), cultivating an empty mind by letting go of thoughts so that rational thinking is transcended; or perhaps, as in the Rinzai school of Zen, one’s awareness is triggered by koans such as, “What is the sound of one hand clapping?” or “What was your face before you were born?” According to Zen, Buddha’s “real message remained always unspoken, and was such that, when words attempted to express it, they made it seem as if it were nothing at all.”
From: http://www.christiananswersforthenewage.org/Articles_ContemplativePrayer1.html
Again, notice the common talking points, especially how such a variety of New Age teacher have used the “Be Still” passage to make their message more attractive to Christians. The really good cult leaders know how to use various biblical passages as a hook to entice Christians into error. This is actually a demonstrably Satanic technique:
Matt 4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, [6] And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. [7] Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
The passage Satan quoted was here:
Psalm 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. [12] They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
BTW, notice how the Devil left out a critical clause, “to keep thee in all thy ways.” Jesus could expect angelic help in anything he did, but the passage in context assumes he is being totally obedient to God, and would therefore not presume to do something so self-serving as trying to force God to give him an angelic glide ride down from the temple tower.
Also note the Satanic penchant for inappropriate absolutism, by which I mean transforming carefully qualified truths into false absolutes. The supernatural angelic help promised in Psalm 91 was qualified by the righteousness obedience to God described in the context.
Likewise, though we know John teaches we have a changed nature as believers, a newness of life that loves to practice good and not evil, we also know John qualified that by admitting that we still do sin, despite our profound change of heart. This is the truth that every believer from the time of Christ has lived and experienced, and why it rings so true to us but does not register with those who have not yet experienced the new birth of which Jesus spoke.
Half a truth is worse than none. So it is with all those driven by the Father of Lies. Even fragments of truth, in their false hands, turn into weapons of mass deception.
Nevertheless, God is not limited by the designs of the evil one. By God’s grace, I was delivered from a life of evil that would have certainly destroyed me, in this life, marriage and all, possibly with local headlines. But God intercepted my pursuit of evil. One evening in LA, a street person liberated me from my money, very politely, and as he walked away, said “God works in mysterious ways.” I went to my hotel room, and as much as I wanted the “silence,” everywhere I turned I found God pleading with me. I could not shut him up.
Then, like the prodigal son, I woke up in my pig sty and thought, if there was any way out of this, I would take it. When I arrived home, I found that God had got there ahead of me and I was in big trouble. Yes, it all worked out. The trouble was just what I needed. God delivered me. My life changed dramatically after that. Things I didn’t initiate, a change in my job that kept me off the road and able to be home with my family, the sudden departure of an old friend who was, at that time, a bad influence on me, etc. I’ve told people, it was like I was suddenly in God’s witness protection program, whisked away from my old life and set on new, high, and solid ground.
Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. [6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
That is the song of my life, along with this:
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.
T’was Grace that taught...
my heart to fear.
And Grace, my fears relieved.
How precious did that Grace appear...
the hour I first believed.
Through many dangers, toils and snares...
we have already come.
T’was Grace that brought us safe thus far...
and Grace will lead us home.
The Lord has promised good to me...
His word my hope secures.
He will my shield and portion be...
as long as life endures.
When we’ve been here ten thousand years...
bright shining as the sun.
We’ve no less days to sing God’s praise...
then when we’ve first begun.
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.
Peace,
SR
Contrary to the ethereal manner of revelation understanding achieved thru Masters mind-numbing meditating as heretofore described by his own words, so that you the subjective is supreme over the words of Scripture and focus on the exegetical meaning of them is denigrated,
“And Moses wrote all the words of the Lord, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel. “ (Exodus 24:4)
“Thus speaketh the Lord God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book. “ (Jeremiah 30:2)
“While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. “ (Matthew 22:41-46)
“And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. “ (Luke 24:27)
“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. “ (Luke 24:44)
“These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. “ (Acts 17:11)
“Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. “ (John 6:68)
“But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; “ (Jude 17)
“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; “ (1 Timothy 6:3)
“I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. “ (Psalms 138:2)
“The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. “ (Psalms 12:6)
>Also note the Satanic penchant for inappropriate absolutism, by which I mean transforming carefully qualified truths into false absolutes. The supernatural angelic help promised in Psalm 91 was qualified by the righteousness obedience to God described in the context.<
Good point among many, thanks!
Well here's ANOTHER chance, fabian! I already suggested that you could easily dispute ANY of the false references you claim are being made concerning Roy's writings. You DO have the books, right? I mean anyone who is as devoted as you seem to be to the man and his theology HAS to have the most popular books he puts out, shouldn't you? Rather than impugn Daniel1212 of misquoting Masters' books, take the few minutes of your time right now and give us the REAL scoop on what he says. Go ahead...prove Daniel1212 wrong. All we can conclude if you fail to do this is that he is right and you are woefully ill-informed of what you say you believe in. I'll let the readers decide who is actually being dishonest and ridiculous.
Roy clearly teaches the truth that voices are NOT The way God communicates. You simply are incorrect about that quote and if you had the book yourself rather than relying on other sources you would see that
Rather, it is you who is simply incorrect about that quote and if you would actually read the book yourself rather than having glasses on that refuse to see anything incriminating about Masters, you could see that.
The quote, as seen, says "spoken," likely inferring it is not necessarily audible. And even if you will not look at the book in pdf from right from his website which i linked to, (pp. 54,55) he goes on to say,
"These phrases may startle you, and they may seem to have no immediate value. You will remember them vividly, however, and wonder about them, until some later experience shows you their meaning. The phrases with immediate, obvious value contain hidden motives and suppressed memories that are rising to the surface to be dissolved through recognition."
Thus whether audible words or not, he is not referring to demons, though his exercises open one up to that, regardless of the denial his adherents must make.
I am so sorry to hear about your husband. I’ve thought about you often and wondered how he was doing. You will continue to be in my prayers.
I have one of his books, not the one in question though...as I said he is not my leader, God is. People can decide for themselves. The truth is very evident to lovers of truth and not just intellectual learned bible people. I have presented ample evidence as well as YouTubes. I don’t need to provide more because you haven’t already seen reality here. God bless, Fabian
Amen total Bullseye!
"...as much as I wanted the “silence,” everywhere I turned I found God pleading with me. I could not shut him up."
A very similar thing happened to me SP,after reading the Book of Revelation.Those words would not go away,my sleep departed from me and (I felt)my sanity was departing from me! The whole episode had me wondering why oh why didn't I take the blue pill? I was an airheaded new-ager that would read anything 'mysterious'and so the book of Rev eventually crossed me eyes.I'm so thankfull God scared the hell out of me.His Word does indeed cut to the heart and is indeed a lamp to our feet.
I posted the following on another forum during a similar discussion.I don't care if people think I'm being 'over the top' or not but the more I read the Bible and the more I think on it and the more I 'watch' the more I believe the following.
"I think what so much of it boils down to is that people simply do not realize that what we possess in the Bible is the message of the Creator,the cosmic observer,to those who He created in His own image and that it is,in every sense of the word a bonifide extra-terrestrial artifact.Try wrapping your head around that! Never mind little green men.The living God has placed it right under our nose! If that fact actually sunk in people would bust a gut laughing at any and all so-called 'secret knowledge' because in reality,compared to what God has revealed to us,it amounts to little more than flatulence in a hurricane."
With as much "childlike faith" as I can muster...I believe the following is the source of what ails us and those Masters thinks he is helping... Hebrews 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage
"That is the song of my life, along with this..."
Beatifull thankyou and we rejoice with you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyrX8V5vbxk
2 Corinthians 12:9-11
(nasb)
And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me. Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ’s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.
“Thy Word have I hid in my heart...”
But WHY Lord; if Roy says to throw it in the garbage?
Isn't that just a bit difficult; if your BIBLE is in the trash?
it’s not..it’s on my desk but I live by the holy spirit, not the bible. You should learn that sometime instead of vilifying a good Jew/Christian man that is helping the world.
he did not say it that way nor mean for anyone to through away their bible...what a dummy. Sorry, I couldn’t help it..but honestly you guys are so bible smart that you are stupid!
26 Then an angel of the Lord said to Philip, ‘Get up and go towards the south to the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.’ (This is a wilderness road.)27So he got up and went. Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of the Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, in charge of her entire treasury. He had come to Jerusalem to worship 28and was returning home; seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah.29Then the Spirit said to Philip, ‘Go over to this chariot and join it.’30So Philip ran up to it and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah. He asked, ‘Do you understand what you are reading?’31He replied, ‘How can I, unless someone guides me?’ And he invited Philip to get in and sit beside him.32Now the passage of the scripture that he was reading was this:
‘Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter,
and like a lamb silent before its shearer,
so he does not open his mouth.
33 In his humiliation justice was denied him.
Who can describe his generation?
For his life is taken away from the earth.’
34The eunuch asked Philip, ‘About whom, may I ask you, does the prophet say this, about himself or about someone else?’35Then Philip began to speak, and starting with this scripture, he proclaimed to him the good news about Jesus.36As they were going along the road, they came to some water; and the eunuch said, ‘Look, here is water! What is to prevent me from being baptized?’38He commanded the chariot to stop, and both of them, Philip and the eunuch, went down into the water, and Philip baptized him.39Then Phillip told him to toss that old scroll of Isaiah into the trash; as he would not need if he merely listened to his OWN holy spirit.
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Baghdad Bob was a better spinner than this!
Now Roy is SO misunderstood that YOU have to explain what he MEANS???
I'm sure he'd be glad to know that!
Thank you for n ot judging.
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