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Knife-wielding man gunned down by cops in Times Square
NYPost.com ^ | 8/12/21012 | LARRY CELONA, AARON FEIS and ANNIE KARNI

Posted on 08/12/2012 4:28:33 AM PDT by raybbr

Cops shot a knife-wielding maniac dead on a packed Midtown street yesterday after several officers drew their weapons and chased him at gunpoint through Times Square.

“Shoot me! Shoot me!” the armed madman shouted at a crowd of more than 20 cops, who had followed him for several blocks and blasted him with pepper spray before cornering him on Seventh Avenue near West 38th Street, according to witness Robert James.

The furious 51-year-old finally lunged at the officers with his 11-inch butcher knife, leading two cops to blast him in the torso, groin and arms at about 3 p.m., police said.

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Cops shot a knife-wielding maniac dead on a packed Midtown street yesterday after several officers drew their weapons and chased him at gunpoint through Times Square.

“Shoot me! Shoot me!” the armed madman shouted at a crowd of more than 20 cops, who had followed him for several blocks and blasted him with pepper spray before cornering him on Seventh Avenue near West 38th Street, according to witness Robert James.

The furious 51-year-old finally lunged at the officers with his 11-inch butcher knife, leading two cops to blast him in the torso, groin and arms at about 3 p.m., police said.


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Why taze this guy? So he can survive and be a continuing threat to all who come in contact with him for another 20 years?


21 posted on 08/12/2012 6:22:18 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Godwin1

“Why taze this guy? So he can survive and be a continuing threat to all who come in contact with him for another 20 years?”

They need him alive until after the election. All these dead voters are starting to look bad....


22 posted on 08/12/2012 6:36:28 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks raybbr. Bloomberg will lead the campaign to ban butcher knives!


23 posted on 08/12/2012 6:40:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: raybbr
Yep, I can see it coming.

Headlines about arsenals of steak knives being found in homes, "Suspect had a set of 8 steak knives concealed in kitchen drawer!" Or, "Mr. Schmuck had a device that held a complete set of kitchen knives."

Obviously we must control how many knives a person can own. Come up with a registration list for knives. And last but not least, BAN ALL ASSAULT KNIVES immediately.

This cannot be allowed to happen to our children.

24 posted on 08/12/2012 6:41:28 AM PDT by Flint
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To: Flint
We screen for knives in carry on luggage at the airport but the 9-11 hijackers sat in first class where diners are provided with metal cutlery.
25 posted on 08/12/2012 6:46:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: E.Allen

What about ‘tranquilizer guns’? Have I watched too many wildlife tag and release videos or do these actually exist - and work?


26 posted on 08/12/2012 6:53:01 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: raybbr

Had an event last week near Anchorage Alaska, State Troopers shot and killed a man holding a baseball bat in the middle of a four lane highway.

The whole thing started when the police tried to stop him for a bad tailight.


27 posted on 08/12/2012 6:59:53 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Vote for Sarah Palin, she is the cure to the disease and infection of socialism.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

No, but has the Reverand Al Sharpton been on the scene. Looks to me like a white cop shooting a minority - - that is a “no no” in the eyes of Sharpton.


28 posted on 08/12/2012 7:03:27 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: beenaround

Looks like he’s WHITE. So, nothing to see here.


29 posted on 08/12/2012 7:32:09 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Zhang Fei
It's just that they had pepper spray on hand when they should have had tasers. And the ubiquity of patrol cars (not to mention precinct HQ's, which are within a mile of each other) tells me that tasers are not part of the standard non-lethal NYPD kit. The long record of multi-million dollar payouts from NYPD entanglements in dubious but successful (thanks to NYC juries) wrongful death lawsuits should have prepped them for this circumstance.

Pepper spray is non lethal, guns can be lethal and tasers can be lethal, although less so.

I'm no expert on police procedures but I'm guessing that with the increase in tasering deaths, police procedures have become more binary.

Either you use non lethal force, pepper spray, or you use lethal force, a gun.

30 posted on 08/12/2012 7:44:53 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: unixfox

White? I dunno, maybe he’s a “White African American”


31 posted on 08/12/2012 7:45:09 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: E.Allen
You obviously are woefully ignorant in the dynamics of armed encounters.

My point is they should have tasered instead of pepper-sprayed him as they actually did. Once that failed, they should, of course, have perforated him. The pepper spray treatment was more dangerous for the cops. Note also that this was a dozen cops against one guy. This was probably why they were confident enough to pepper spray him instead of shooting him from the get-go. Again, the point of this isn't to criticize NYPD for its inhumanity against the common sword-wielding perp - it's to point out that having the right equipment against such individuals can reduce the number of wrongful death payouts for which the city has to shell out.

32 posted on 08/12/2012 7:46:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: momtothree
I am unsure how close an officer must get to a suspect to use a taser?

If it is relatively close... couldn’t that have risked the officer more than shooting this guy?

35 feet or less.

Yes.

33 posted on 08/12/2012 7:47:43 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Zhang Fei

Good to know; somehow I thought you had to actually touch someone with a taser.


34 posted on 08/12/2012 7:52:05 AM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: raybbr

Why aren’t cops capable of dealing with crazy people without killing them?


35 posted on 08/12/2012 7:53:34 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: E.Allen

Thanks for the update to that post!


36 posted on 08/12/2012 7:53:53 AM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: SampleMan
Why aren’t cops capable of dealing with crazy people without killing them?

You left off the part about the crazy person having a knife and you imply that cops haven't on numerous occasions subdued such people.

37 posted on 08/12/2012 7:58:26 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: shadeaud

I look forward to the day when this sort of @sshole is gunned down in Times Square by a law-abiding citizen instead of a group of police officers. It’s much cheaper and less messy that way.


38 posted on 08/12/2012 8:09:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: SMGFan

I saw shots of him that were taken at 42nd St. - near the police headquarters (the old recruiting station location) - so he definitely was in Times Square. It didn’t look like he was in the old garment district. My husband and I thought he was closer to 6th Avenue at one point.

And, believe me - to other posters - if you are walking down one of those streets - you do not want to have a large, crazed, high-as-a-kite man with a Ikea chef’s knife behind you. Good for the cops.


39 posted on 08/12/2012 8:12:27 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: SampleMan

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Like “shoot the butcher knife out of his hand?”

That is crazy question.

This was a “teachable moment” for the rest of the OWS/crazies -

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40 posted on 08/12/2012 8:13:21 AM PDT by devolve (-------------------- ------- "...maybe a little blow..." - Barack Hussein Obama Junior -------------)
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