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Posted on 07/20/2012 6:55:45 PM PDT by rjbemsha
Consistent rain and warm temperatures may have given the Mongols the energy source they needed to conquer Eurasia: grass for their horses (huge amount of grass needed to feed the 10 horses for each Mongol warrior).
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Ghengis Kahn’s decedents ruled into the 20th century. His is an amazing story of conquest and it was benevolent (for the most part...if you can get beyond that “give us 10% for protection or all in this city will die” part) He and his offspring were responsible for printed currency, the postal service...and the plague that decimated Europe. (not intentionally, though)
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That's much better than the Bush tax cuts!
That casts the Mongol conquests in a whole 'nuther light!
Sirry Mongorians.
Mongo just pawn in game of life.
ah yes... the ‘everybody in this city dies’ = benevolence.
Gotcha.
Benevolent Mongols. That is of course why they killed roughly 10% of the world’s population, more than any other group has ever been able to achieve.
Even the 20th century commies were only able to get up to maybe 3%.
History is what it was, who knows the truth these many millennia later. No sense arguing.
Sorry, not if you were Han (Chinese). Their rule was brutal, but short lived. Where did you get this Ghengis Kahn's decedents ruled into the 20th century from?
As for the warm climate fuel the Mongol expansion into the West, too early to speculate at this point.
Technically speaking, the Mongol Empire was less than a millenium ago. But who’s counting.
I was deployed to Uzbekistan in 2003. Local contractor secretaries were all beautiful Uzbek girls. They spoke excellent English, thought Islam sucks, liked vodka & rock music, and dressed as they pleased. Hated Afghanistan & burkas.
But all their national heroes were Genghis Khan (Temujin), Tamerlaine (Timur the Lame), Aleksandr Makedonskii (Alex the Great), and Josef Stalin. Tyrants and destroyers. And we liked to say that if the USSR were still around, every one of these lovelies would be some Soviet colonel’s b*tch.
Democracy? Rights of the individual? Never heard of those in Central Asia.
Hessl’s an idiot about history. Consistently wet weather might have produced rain for the Mongol horseherds, but it would have played hob with the Mongols’ principal weapon - the recurve bow. Mongol bows were made of wood, horn and other materials, held together by a glue made of fish . The glue was not waterproof, and neither were the strings for the bows.
And the Mongol capital wan’t moved to Beiging because of weather. Qublai Quan moved it there after defeating his brother Ariq Boka for the Supreme Quanship of the Mongol empire because: [1] Northern China was part of the Ulus granted him by his brother Mongke Qa Quan, [2] He was also the Emperor of China [at least the Chin part; and he was well on his way to conquering the Sung].
I think he meant 19th century. The Moguls of India were, at least in theory, his descendants and they weren't kicked off the throne in India until the Mutiny of 1857. Though their rule had been pretty theoretical for quite some time by then.
Also pretty much all the Central Asian rulers down to their conquest by the Russians were his descendants.
About 8% of the population of a rather large area of Asia may be descended from him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_Genghis_Khan#DNA_evidence_-_The_Genghis_Khan_Effect
I know...yet I stand by my statement.
Actually, looks like the Qing Emperors of China were all his descendants, with their empire lasting till 1910.
In fact the Japs put the last of this line in as the puppet ruler of Manchuria, which lasted till 1945.
Uzbeks are an interesting people. They are basically Iranic peoples who became Turkified. Timurids wrecked their area, but he is loved?? The Iranic peoples of Uzbekistan were part of Bactria, which was a Hellenized kingdom after Iskandar.
His last direct descendant died in China in 1984, I believe.
Not so. the Quin were Manchus.
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