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You can pray... just not to Jesus
GOPUSA ^ | June 21, 2012 | Bobby Eberle

Posted on 06/25/2012 3:25:39 PM PDT by Altariel

There is a crack down going on in one North Carolina police department. Have patrols been stepped up? No. Are gangs being disbanded? No. Are the cops getting tough on crime? No. However, what is changing is that volunteer chaplains in the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department (CMPD) will no longer be able to invoke the name "Jesus" when they pray, and it has some people up in arms.

As reported by WSOC TV 9, "chaplains have been told that they cannot invoke the name of Jesus in prayers at public events."

"When I heard this I was sad," said Pastor Terry Sartain, who has been a chaplain with CMPD for seven years.

Sartain said he learned of the policy when he got a phone call before a recent promotion ceremony saying he could not use Jesus' name in his invocation.

"I asked if I could withdraw, because Jesus is the only thing I have to bless people with," Sartain said.

Of course, one person interviewed for the news story, an ACLU member named Jim Gronquist, said the policy was long overdue.

"It's improper to mix up religion with the function of state agents, and as long as they're state agents, they should not be able to do that," Gronquist said.

These officers should not be able to pray to Jesus? Give me a break! This is America, right?

Todd Starnes with Fox News Radio interviewed Sartain, who said he has a "very real concern about where we are heading as a nation."

"I serve a God who loves people unconditionally, who died for their sins on the cross, who wants to reconcile himself to them and love them where they are at - and now I'm told I can't bless people as a result of that."

The police department said he could still pray - just not to Jesus.

So to whom was the Christian minister supposed to pray?

"That was my question," Sartain said. "If I'm going to pray - what should I pray?"

Sartain said he feels Christians are being targeted. I would have to agree. We see more and more incidents all the time where the only "objectionable" material or actions are those of Christians.

What do you think?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: jesus; northcarolina; police; prayer; romansareback

1 posted on 06/25/2012 3:25:56 PM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Western Civilization is under attack, Christianity is a part of Western Civilization, therefore it is also under attack. Westerners have not shown any effective capacity for resisting the attacks whether they be against our race, religion, or culture and ultimately we will go under. All civilizations die and the West seems to have entered that phase.


2 posted on 06/25/2012 3:38:26 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Altariel

Could he pray to Gaia, Allah, Lucifer, Satan, Bezelebub, or Mohommed? Seems like one religion isn’t being treated as equal as another.


3 posted on 06/25/2012 3:44:30 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Altariel

Going to jail in the name of Jesus happens around the world. Why not here?

Pray for America


4 posted on 06/25/2012 3:52:11 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: Hodar

All those are just religions. Jesus Christ is real and his enemies don’t want to see Him or hear about Him or think about Him.


5 posted on 06/25/2012 3:54:28 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: Altariel

I think he should pray to “the son of God, who died on the cross for our sins, and who’s enemies fear even His name.”


6 posted on 06/25/2012 3:57:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: bray
Going to jail in the name of Jesus happens around the world. Why not here?

The anti's are not sure they can get away with it, yet.

Not that they wouldn't like to. But the minute the state starts putting Christians in the slammer, they blow the cover of all the lukewarm pretenders who confuse the message by their halfhearted and self contradictory witness. The prospect of martyrdom has an amazing way of drawing a bright line that the enemies of Christ would rather see rubbed out.

8 posted on 06/25/2012 5:04:56 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: bray

Pray to Jesus anyway.....what is wrong with these people that they can’t stand up like men and be counted....IF millions of people would stop succumbing to the leftist evil , that evil would stop progressing...


9 posted on 06/25/2012 5:38:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: bray

Pray to Jesus anyway.....what is wrong with these people that they can’t stand up like men and be counted....IF millions of people would stop succumbing to the leftist evil , that evil would stop progressing...


10 posted on 06/25/2012 5:38:58 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Rodm

Yes. The widespread hate, revulsion, and fear of Jesus Christ is blazing proof (if anyone requires it) that He alone is the truth and the way.


11 posted on 06/25/2012 5:40:17 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: cherry

You’ve got it right!


12 posted on 06/25/2012 7:52:19 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: tacticalogic
I think he should pray to “the son of God, who died on the cross for our sins, and who’s enemies fear even His name.”

Heh. I like that!

13 posted on 06/25/2012 9:02:04 PM PDT by pigsmith (Gun control means a nice tight pattern.)
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To: tacticalogic

That’s great. Still, this indiv8dual works for the state, not the federal government. With all the dictats coming from Washington, maybe it’s time to revive the Constitutional separation of powers between state and federal.


14 posted on 06/26/2012 10:56:51 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa 61)
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