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Obama's Citizenship

Posted on 03/21/2012 7:30:25 PM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri

Could someone explain the issue of Obama's birth certificate? I've seen Sheriff Joe present findings that it is a forgery along with the selective service card. Then I recall Ann Coulter claiming "her paper," human events has debunked the "birther" nonsense, but I don't really bother reading her columns any longer preferring not to be insulted by "three cheers for Romneycare." I mean, is there really credible evidence that Obama is not a U.S. citizen because that would be huge..


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To: Yosemitest

I really like the story I read about a small business owner showing his support for Limbaugh after Fluke ploy..he bought a big ad buy. I agree, and I’m paying attention the big companies that get in bed with democrats..not with my dollars! What businesses need are major changes in D.C., Obama’s anti-business policies are killing small businesses while union cronies reap rewards.


61 posted on 03/21/2012 9:49:13 PM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
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To: spookie
Have you read this?
62 posted on 03/21/2012 9:54:08 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri

U.S Supreme Court in 1874 defined the term NATURAL BORN as being a child born of two. u.s. citizens. The 14th amendment states “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisidiction thereof are citizens of the United States....” It does not state natural born but simply born here.
Thus Obama is not natural born because his father was a British subject at the time. They tried to confuse the issue by reference to 14th amendment and as you see in the quotes is the actual word for word segment concerning born in the united states.


63 posted on 03/21/2012 9:59:59 PM PDT by spookie
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To: Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri

U.S Supreme Court in 1874 defined the term NATURAL BORN as being a child born of two. u.s. citizens. The 14th amendment states “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisidiction thereof are citizens of the United States....” It does not state natural born but simply born here.
Thus Obama is not natural born because his father was a British subject at the time. They tried to confuse the issue by reference to 14th amendment and as you see in the quotes is the actual word for word segment concerning born in the united states.


64 posted on 03/21/2012 10:00:22 PM PDT by spookie
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To: Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
Obama's actions are intentional. Search collapse the system.

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65 posted on 03/21/2012 10:05:31 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: DakotaGator
So what we have is an illegal alien usurping the Office of the Presidency with the complicit treason of the Democrat Party (who certified to all the Several States that Obama was Constitutionally qualified for the office), The Justice Department (which refuses to investigate credible claims of treason), the entire Congress (whose members refused to challenge this treason), the entire Judicial Branch (which refuses to hear court challenges or dismisses them on technicalities), and all of the Several States (who refused to demand proof of Obama's citizenship).

I just posted the following on another thread but it applies to your comment. You forgot the military and its military code of honor and oath to defend the Constitution.

There are really five balances of power. The other two are:

) 1) The military code of honor and oath to defend the Constitution.

)2( The Second Amendment. ( Hopefully, this will never be necessary.)

As for the the military, a few courageous lower level officers questioned Obama’s eligibility. LTC Larkin spent 6 months in prison. Major Cook's career was destroyed, and I haven't heard anything about Capt. Rhodes.

The very highest levels of the military are either brain dead ( not likely) or they are willfully ignoring forgery, identity theft, election fraud, lying under oath, and fraudulent usurpation of a military command ( CIC).

Questions:

** When did ignoring identity theft, forged birth documents, failure to e-verify, social security fraud and identity theft, and usurpation of a military command become part of the military code of honor?

**When did ignoring this become part of defending the Constitution?

**Where is the evidence that our very highest military leaders peacefully and legally sought certifiable clarification that their CIC was legitimate from congress or the courts?

**Have any of the highest officers resigned their commission over this and held a press conference?

** Is this how the highest military officers watch the backs of the brave, honorable, and highly trained troops under their command?

** Is ignoring the oath to defend the Constitution and the military code of honor what is taught now in our military academies? ( Just wondering.)

66 posted on 03/21/2012 10:18:06 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: Godebert

“SCOTUS already has ‘confirmed’ that.”
___________________________________________

OK, so who is going to serve an eviction notice?
Us birthers are still derided as nuts and kooks,
by jerks like O’reilly.


67 posted on 03/21/2012 10:35:36 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: spookie
 Knock knock...
 Who's there?
 Kenya...
 Kenya who?

 Kenya show me a valid birth certificate?

68 posted on 03/21/2012 10:37:30 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri

Sheriff Joe: ‘Tons’ more shocking Obama info
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe-tons-more-shocking-obama-info/?cat_orig=us


69 posted on 03/21/2012 11:16:45 PM PDT by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the link.
It reminds me of a writing from long ago: Yes, we were told that this would happen.of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
70 posted on 03/22/2012 1:12:19 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Vendome
"NBS ? Natural Bull Shiiter . No Barry Stereo. crab. I can’t think of anything funny."

That was such a nice zinger it bears repeating.

71 posted on 03/22/2012 1:15:22 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Texas Fossil; tommix2; All
"Why doesn't Obama show us the proof that he is eligible to be president?"

Relevant: If anyone has a link to a statement by anyone credible and in a position of public notoriety ever asking, publicly and directly whether "Obama" is constitutionally qualified to hold office and been answered in the affirmative, said answer being straightforward and public as well, I'd very much appreciate their posting it. I personally cannot recall ever seeing such.

"His past will literally devour him at some point."

From your keyboard to God's inbox.

72 posted on 03/22/2012 1:54:45 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Excellent summary.

“Where there’s smoke, there’s fire” is a reasonable way to sum the history of this affair. His actions, the facts and the circumstances do not yet convict him but they certainly make him suspect.


73 posted on 03/22/2012 1:58:31 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri

There is a mountain of credible evidences that obozo is NOT constitutionally elig to be the pres.
However, no gov official is willling to address this issue except Sherrif Arpaio.
We the people are powerless to seek justice from the corrupt justice system.
However We the people can keep up the pressure to broadcast this issue, to seek justice in the court of public opinions.
Every level of gov has been infiltrated by the left/socialists/marxists/commie for many years now. ‘Conservative principles’ have been abandoned by most.
It takes them years to carry out this ‘coup’.
It will take us years to reverse course, to salvage our founding conservatism.
This is the wrong time to fight the right battle, OR there is a better way to fight the right battle -
to insist in not voting for a Rino even at the expense of keeping the usurper for 4 more years is NOT WISE, NOT STRATEGIC! Reasons -
- if our ‘not voting’ (i.e principled voting?) allows them to keep their man, we lose instantly!
- if we do whatever it takes to remove their man (e.g. vote him out!), we deal them a gigantic blow instsantly (even if you don’t think we win by getting a Rino)!

With a ‘win’ under our belts, we proceed to shape our destiny - hopefully we have a conservative congress and people, keeping a leash on the Rino president, guiding him along the right path....

Think of these scenarios -
1. Rino president: a real American who after all cares about the Americans, and on whom we can exert some influence
vs
their foreigner/terrorist man: with all his czars, agencies, exec orders, civilian armies, corrupt justice, DEPT OF INJUSTICE HOLDER! filthy rich commie handlers, union thugs, chicago mobs.... rendering Congress irrelevant and squashing us like bugs!

2. With obozo out of power, gov officils (may be the lamestream too)will be set free of their fear and finally ACT to prosecute the criminal obozo! (At least there is a chance even if the Rino pres comes to his rescue)
With obozo in the oval office - NO ONE DARES TO DO ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE CAN BUTCHER US ANY WAY HE WANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR 4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OR NO USE FOR US TO OPPOSE HIM!!!!!!!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
VOTE OBOZO OUT! HE MUST BE OUT BEFORE WE CAN PROSECUTE HIM, OR HOPE TO PROSECUTE HIM!

If obozo stays, we have NO HOPE! We need hope to sustain us.

OBAMA MUST GO BEFORE WE CAN
HOPE FOR THE CHNAGE WE REALLY WANT!

OBAMA STAYS MEANS ‘NO WE CAN’T’
OBAMA GONE MEANS ‘YES WE CAN’!!!

Hope you agree with this message and spread it.


74 posted on 03/22/2012 2:13:00 AM PDT by chrisnj
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Well your great exhibition of reason in post #7 was just just delivered a self-demotion in your post #13.

Who would one rather vote for? Ahmadinejad or Hugo Chavez?

It is better to take control of the Senate with increased TP influence and add to the TP ranks of the House to stop Obama cold rather than to smear the GOP brand with the likes of RINO Romney.

We need to use the election of 2014 to wipe out any vestiges of the democrat infiltration of the GOP also known as the current GOP establishment/elite or GOP-E.

Do not under any circumstances support the election of Romney.

For 2012, pray for a brokered convention where Newt and Santorum have a chance to tear Romney and the GOP-E some new as*holes.

I personally would like to see Tokyo Rove and his ilk defect to the democrat party.


75 posted on 03/22/2012 2:35:12 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
9) Obama hid his long time association with Bill Ayers (who wrote “Dreams of My Father” for him).

The book is Dreams From My Father, but so many people say "of" that you can probably find it by that title too, LOL!

76 posted on 03/22/2012 2:51:33 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: AlexW
"OK, so who is going to serve an eviction notice? Us birthers are still derided as nuts and kooks, by jerks like O’reilly."

Sherif Joe! He will not back down from threats and ridicule. He will uphold his sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

77 posted on 03/22/2012 3:16:10 AM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Hostage
"For 2012, pray for a brokered convention where Newt and Santorum have a chance to tear Romney and the GOP-E some new as*holes. I personally would like to see Tokyo Rove and his ilk defect to the democrat party."

Newt should go nuclear and demand an investigation into Obama's elligibility. The republican elite would wet their pants.

78 posted on 03/22/2012 3:24:44 AM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: TheOldLady


79 posted on 03/22/2012 3:34:04 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri

The basic ‘issue’ the sheriff is chasing is a simple one.

Forgery - the criminal creation of a government issued document that is not authentic

Fraud - misrepresentation of such forgeries for the purposes of misleading citizens of his county.

So far the good sheriff has not - and probably will not - bring up issues such as constitutional issues or possible foreign birth or the definition of ‘natural born Citizen’.

He is after forgers who have defrauded his people.


80 posted on 03/22/2012 5:29:48 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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