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BYU study: Guns don't give people advantage during a bear encounter
Deseret News ^ | March 8, 2012

Posted on 03/08/2012 10:58:38 PM PST by Zakeet

Conventional wisdom isn't always based on common sense, and sometimes isn't even based on real data, especially when it comes to animals of mythological proportions like bears.

BYU wildlife biologist Tom Smith wants to change that.

A new study suggests that one of the most commonly suggested deterrents against bears in the wild — guns — actually won't protect people any better than not using a gun.

"It really isn't about the kind of gun you carry,” he said. “It's about how you carry yourself. We need to respect an animal that could potentially take our lives."

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This isn't the first time Smith has had a study showing that guns aren't as effective against bears as generally believed. In 2008, Smith released a study saying that bear spray is more effective than guns.

Part of the problem is that shooting accurately is very difficult in a terrifying situation like having a giant animal charging at you. Even if you do kill the bear, that's still a problem, given declining populations and the the loss of what a bear can contribute both economically and ecologically.

"It's a conservation issue in that we'll see needless bear mortalities," Smith said.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bear; guns; hunting
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To: Zakeet

Does this wonder-weapon, pepper spray, work as well on the government? Then we’re saved, lads! Hooray!

Where can I buy the accessories? You know, like the will-to-use-it patch?


61 posted on 03/09/2012 4:47:17 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: Doug Loss
"Just what does a bear contribute economically, unless it's his pelt and meat?"

Ammo sales maybe? :)

62 posted on 03/09/2012 4:48:43 AM PST by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Elsie
A sharp *smack* on the nose will do it every time. :)


63 posted on 03/09/2012 4:48:49 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Daffynition
I have GOATS that'll go for yer THROAT!!



64 posted on 03/09/2012 4:53:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: goat granny

Look above


65 posted on 03/09/2012 4:53:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Haiku Guy

A few years ago a fisherman killed a chargeing brown bear with one shot from his 9mm any gun is better then no gun.


66 posted on 03/09/2012 4:58:03 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Lady Lucky
"NOT still a problem. The only population I'd worry about declining is ME. Kill bear, problem solved. The only contribution to the world that I'm responsible for is mine. Kill bear, problem solved."

Well put Lady Lucky. The problem with this guy is that, like most libtards, he cares more about a bear than he does a human. Humans are destroying the planet, dontcha know.

67 posted on 03/09/2012 4:59:39 AM PST by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Daffynition

At that range most any gun shoved up against his head would drive a bullet into its brain.


68 posted on 03/09/2012 5:02:06 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Elsie
LOL..if you'd put down that d@mn squeeze box...maybe they'd calm down! ;)


69 posted on 03/09/2012 5:04:12 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Elsie
Elsie, I am shocked. Shocked I tell you at your sangf-froid about the bear problem. We must not shoot bears because they are terribly endangered. Recently, a starving polar bear was spotted on a shrinking ice floe in the Gulf of Mexico off Tampa Bay.

Yes he attacked me,because he was hungry. I threw him a small illegal immigrant.

70 posted on 03/09/2012 5:07:04 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Zakeet

A lot depends on the gun. If it is a 375 H&H Magnum rifle, or a 12 gauge with slugs, it will probably help a lot. If it is a 44 mag or less - and I’m a 44 fan - then it probably won’t do a lot.

Pepper spray? Get real...


71 posted on 03/09/2012 5:09:45 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: DarthVader

More publish or perish crap!


72 posted on 03/09/2012 5:19:05 AM PST by chainsaw (Sarah Palin is still my first choice to save the USA. . .)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Kenny,

That was not Polar Bear, it was just a ‘flamer’ dressed in white, and it was hungry, but what is was hungry for was adequately supplied by that mini-pack wetback you threw to it.

Gotta watch your species identification during weekend 3 AM encounters. I was unaware you did any fishing in the turning basin alongside the Ybor City/Aquarium trolly line. That’s a dangerous place to fish as all sorts of drunk and drugged things fall into the water.

Be careful because there’s no telling what you might find decorating your hook if you keep fishing there. Why do you think that Tampa Light Rail thingie is called a “Troll”y?

;-)


73 posted on 03/09/2012 5:34:03 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Zakeet
"It really isn't about the kind of gun you carry,” he said. “It's about how you carry yourself.

Indeed. If you're carrying a serious caliber, you will carry yourself with serious caliber - and ain't no predator gonna mess with you.

Old saw:
A: "You're armed. What are you afraid of?"
B: "Absolutely nuthin'!"

74 posted on 03/09/2012 5:41:36 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mr Rogers

Pepper spray = condiment


75 posted on 03/09/2012 5:42:43 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lady Lucky
Does this wonder-weapon, pepper spray, work as well on the government? Then we’re saved, lads! Hooray! What happens if its raining or the wind is blowing towards you and away from Mr Bear?
76 posted on 03/09/2012 6:01:02 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Daffynition

Someone needs to re-take their PhotoShop lessons.


77 posted on 03/09/2012 6:02:03 AM PST by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: USAF80
What happens if its raining or the wind is blowing towards you and away from Mr Bear?

I dunno. What?

78 posted on 03/09/2012 6:03:43 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: chris37

May I suggest FOX LABS spray? Carried by many LEOs. Never had a failure. Also had a wiff or three of it. Most unpleasant!


79 posted on 03/09/2012 6:13:06 AM PST by donozark (We're ALL Greeks now...)
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To: Lady Lucky

Mr Bear get a happy meal I suppose.


80 posted on 03/09/2012 6:21:47 AM PST by USAF80
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