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The basic problem is that NBC does not and has not required two citizen parents.

I understand that birthers reject that idea. But at a bare minimum, all ought to be able to agree that honest people can look at the evidence and disagree with the idea that two citizen parents are required.

When all 50 states reject an argument, and every court rejects it, and no member of Congress accepts it, and no political party agrees with it...then maybe, just maybe, it is not ‘obviously’ a correct argument.

It doesn’t help that birthers on this thread have made dishonest statements that they know are dishonest.

The basic problem is that NBC does not and has not required two citizen parents.

It doesn’t help that birthers on this thread have made dishonest statements that they know are dishonest.

...just curious, why would you dismiss the court cases sited to back up two parent NBC, or the fact that Stanley Ann was not of age to pass on single parent NBC when Hussein was born?
These are both arguments in law with citations? Just stating that two parent NBC isn’t required in the face of legal and judicial facts is not much of a rebuttal...

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It doesn’t help that birthers on this thread have made dishonest statements that they know are dishonest.

Care to list them? Just a few, maybe.

The basic problem is that NBC does not and has not required two citizen parents. I understand that birthers reject that idea. But at a bare minimum, all ought to be able to agree that honest people can look at the evidence and disagree with the idea that two citizen parents are required.

While I think there is some cause to reject your absolute assertion, you are correct that there is or should be room for disagreement.

But what there cannot be disagreement with is that Obama's entire pre-Chicago life appears to be a fabrication. He has never produced a real birth certificate or a standard (non-diplomatic) United States Passport of the sort that almost every adult, middle-class and up citizen has in a drawer someplace in his house. The computer images he proffered last April would never be accepted by any government for anything (e.g. getting a Drivers' License) and are almost certainly fraudulent or made to appear fraudulent in any case. The man is a bunko artist and belongs in prison regardless of the lack of clear definition from the Framers about the meaning of "natural-born citizen."

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The basic problem is that NBC does not and has not required two citizen parents.

I understand that birthers reject that idea. But at a bare minimum, all ought to be able to agree that honest people can look at the evidence and disagree with the idea that two citizen parents are required.

Prior to 1922, it was not POSSIBLE to have other than two citizen parents. How can a non citizen parent rule apply to a time before it was even possible?

Also, here's another piece of evidence *YOU* won't look at. According to this newspaper from 1811, A child could only be a citizen if his FATHER was a citizen. LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE!

Being a ‘birther’ I have often wondered why the Founders did not be more explicit as to the meaning/description of an ‘NBC’ which they so uniquely embedded in the Constitution for POTUSA . It is well known that the Founders were much aware of the talk/discussions about ‘NBC’ and even had communications as to such. With years of dealing with laws, rules, regulations, specifications, etc. I have often been involved in presentations which assumed that somethings not mentioned were taken as ‘a matter of fact’. I believe that is why the Founders did not write ‘a matter of fact’ appended to the requirement for ‘NBC’. Much like when they signed the Constitution they did not declare themselves as citizens of the States.