The basic problem is that NBC does not and has not required two citizen parents.
It doesn’t help that birthers on this thread have made dishonest statements that they know are dishonest.
...just curious, why would you dismiss the court cases sited to back up two parent NBC, or the fact that Stanley Ann was not of age to pass on single parent NBC when Hussein was born?
These are both arguments in law with citations? Just stating that two parent NBC isn’t required in the face of legal and judicial facts is not much of a rebuttal...
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“...just curious, why would you dismiss the court cases sited to back up two parent NBC”
There are not any. Minor said two parent NBC was agreed, but that others had a broader definition, and that they would not try to settle it.
The problem is that, at the time of the approval of the Constitution, NO ONE had suggested two citizen parents were a requirement. All the law prior used the phrase ‘natural born subject’ - and that phrase was used interchangeably with natural born citizen for at least a few years after the Constitution.
All agree that the definition of natural born subject included those born to alien parents. The first suggestion otherwise appeared in a poor translation of Vattel 10 year AFTER the Constitution, when ‘indigenes’ was translated ‘natural born citizen’ - although indigenes is an English word as well as French, with the same meaning in both languages.
The WKA decision has a long discussion of the meaning of NBC, and birth citizenship. While many here dislike the decision, it certainly has been an influential one. It won’t be overturned by people who ignore what it says. You can read the full text here:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html
“It doesn’t help that birthers on this thread have made dishonest statements that they know are dishonest.” / “Care to list them? Just a few, maybe.”
Sure. In post 16, Spaulding wrote, “Of course all of our Senators signed SR511 in April 2008, all acknowledging that a natural born citizen is born to two citizen parents (though the testimony showed some sophistry by never citing Supreme Court cases and by citing the 1790 Nationality Act without noting that it was entirely replaced with no mention of natural born citizenship.”
Now, what Spaulding knows - because it has been pointed out to him many times - is that SR511 dealt with children born overseas to American parents. He pretends it means that all NBC require two citizen parents, even tho he knows that was not the subject of SR511. That is dishonest. Nothing in SR511 in any way applied to those born in the USA.
Frankly, there is a stronger case for Obama being a natural born citizen than there was for McCain. There has been legal doubt all along concerning those born to US citizens abroad. The confusion caused by the mistranslation of Vattel in 1797 was settled by the WKA decision in the 1890s, but the case for McCain is weaker.