Posted on 01/15/2012 7:24:17 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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Word has it that Mr. Herman Cain, a strong conservative presidential candidate incessantly attacked by the national media, the DNC and the RINO Establishment slime machine, is in a position now to endorse in pivotal South Carolina prior to its presidential primary.
The problem is, some indications are coming out that such an endorsement, while "unconventional" may be going to Mitt Romney, the worst possible choice for the Republicans in 2012 and certainly no conservative, easily beatable by Barack Obama in November. Sucn an endorsement would be highly inadvisable. Many of us, former 2012 Cain supporters, volunteers and donors say this in unison and with passion.
In terms of PAC being forumlated, any other race he could run in at a lower level, endorsement-providing organization, talk show circuit, donations, 501 (c) 3, any and all of the above. This is all politics, not necessarily running for politics oneself anymore. The conservative grassroots spigot for donations would rightly be shut off if there were somehow a Herman Cain - Romney endorsement at this time. Again, with all due respect for him, he really should be aware of the downside to do such a thing at this time.
I like Herman Cain alrightI supported his 999 plan when he was running, and I still think it’s a good idea for tax reform.
I’m just very cynical about this entire race, and the entire political process itself, so the most pessimistic forebodings don’t surprise me in the least.
It’s as if large tracts of the Republican population are under some kind of mass psychosis, like some bad horror flick where everyone is getting bitten by an overrun of MittZombies. So if I see that Cain had turned into one of them well.
Look, I really LIKE Perry but it’s not happening for him. It very well could in a different year. People just aren’t forgetting his gaffes (played ad nauseum by the media) and maybe he also rubs the endless Bush haters the wrong way. Regardless, Newt can verbally whip BHO effortlessly and would inherit most of Perry’s votes just as he did Herman’s. And Santorum’s not accomplishing anything positive by staying in, either.
Romney is ahead because the “non-Romney” votes are too divided.
I hope that's not true, because if it is it will just reinforce what many thought, based on what has been posted on FR, that the the worst attribute of Perry is his supporters.
Sorry to blow your cork but J.C. Watts is a business as usual politician and as for Mr. Cain, I’m not sure about him although he appears to be an outsider.
If he were to endorse Romney, I would have to say that all of Cain’s talk during the campaign was meaningless and phony.
I hear your argument, AIT.
However, here is mine.
I want to know what a candidate really thinks. For me to do that means that I have to let the candidate engage in his own decision.
That, to me is more valuable than preventing a Romney nomination. If I know that Cain is a Romney supporter and backs him in this crucial race, then that tells me quite a bit about Mr. Cain, doesn’t it?
If Mr. Cain is wobbly, I want to know that now. I would prefer that over writing to him and convincing him that it’s not in his best interests to endorse Romney.
I hope you see where I am going with this. If he wants to endorse Romney - then we should let him go and do it. THEN we make it clear to him, after the endorsement, that he will be taking that walk alone.
I have heard MANY say their top choices are Newt/Perry or Perry/Newt. And anyone who’d “sit it out” doesn’t realize how life or death for the country this election is. We won’t survive a fully unleashed second term of b. hussein obama. There’ll be no “lessons taught” for “next time”.
I know how you feel.
That is, denying Romney the nomination of the party, just as we now know how disastrous it was to get McCain nominated four years ago and the stuffing beat out of us as a result, because there was not a clear enough distinction between him and Obama, and I think at the end, finally, like Dole (1996) and Bush Sr. (1992), he just did not want to win, I mean really truly want to win. His only true saving grace was Sarah Palin on the ticket.
Speaking of which, more effective than a Cain endorsement of Newt, would be a Cain/Palin endorsement of Newt.
In a word: "innoculation"
“They will most likely sit out.”
I would never sit out the election, but if the nominee is Romney or Gingrich I will likely go third party. There is no point in sticking with the GOP when they insist on sending a loser to slaughter. It is time for someone new to enter this race, and they need to do it soon. Palin! Ryan!
FWIW, this is my best guess; Cain won't endorse a candidate, he'll endorse a concept or idea.
You want to save Cain some face. I understand that. Me, I want to know where he stands. I’d rather he endorsed Romney so that we knew rather then convince him to act otherwise.
I believe I could buy and support that combination.
Cain may very well endorse Mitt Romney soon. The reason being that he has to endorse when it might do some good, such as before a major southern primary in SC. Otherwise, an endorsement of Romney later in the day, when the deal for Romney is done, won’t have any weight to it, nor any perks from it. If Cain wants some consideration for a post within a Romney Admin, he’s going to have to act fast to have any credibility with the Romney camp as to his usefulness to it. So, whether it be now or just before FL, I believe those are the only two chances that Cain has to be of any help to Romney and company.
Then again, considering what Cain was accused of, it’s possible none of the conservative candidates really want Cain’s endorsement, although they would probably accept it, just not while standing next to Cain, but only from afar.
Interesting.
Relax, every candidate will endorse Romney, when he has the nomination locked up, since at that point, only other choice is Obama.
But I strongly doubt that either Can or Bachmann will endorse anyone, while some more conservative candidates still have some chance.
Bachman and Cain both gave an indirect endorsement to remaining candidates who are more conservative than Romney when they withdrew... Perry should have done the same after Iowa, but has not been able to add 2 and 2 together throughout these primaries...
Perry is just not ready. Unlike other candidates (Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman), Perry did not grow, gain experience, to be more prepared next time around. Perry actually shrunk...
I was actually rooting for him at one point. When he said Social Security was a Ponzi scheme. But he folded on than, and more...
Cain wants to head a PAC to press tax reform. Which candidate would be most conducive to that goal? The only ones I could think of would be Perry and maybe Paul.
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