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Enlistment Advice Needed For Son
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Posted on 12/26/2011 8:59:45 AM PST by PUGACHEV

I've been here ten years and this is my first post. I know many here have experience in the different services, but I have none. My son, who is 24, wants to enlist and make the military a career, but does not know which branch to enlist in. He has a high school diploma, no involvement with drugs, and no criminal record except, unfortunately, a DWI and several traffic related misdemeanors. He is intelligent, fit, athletic, and handsome. His interests are ice hockey, video games, and girls, in that order. He is a quiet person with a low arousal type personality who is very tough and self possesed. He is completely unflapable. He has good manners, no meanness in him, and makes friends easily. He has no particular work-related skills or aptitudes. His grandfather on his mother's side was in the British army from Dunkirk to the end of the war, so maybe there is some military talent lurking in his genes somewhere.

My son is looking to me for advice, and he will follow it. My questions are: (1) What branch would have him with the DWI on his record; (2) What branch would best suit his personality; and, if he had a choice, what speciality might be good for him. My first thought was the Navy, but I really don't know.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: advice; enlistment; military
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1 posted on 12/26/2011 8:59:49 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV

I’m told that a DWI is a mandatory “ particular work-related skill or aptitude” for the Navy! //extreme sarc (but a kernel of truth)


2 posted on 12/26/2011 9:03:17 AM PST by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: PUGACHEV

go Navy, that way he won’t get shot.


3 posted on 12/26/2011 9:03:36 AM PST by brivette
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To: PUGACHEV

I am ex-Navy, but I think he might be happier in the Army ...


4 posted on 12/26/2011 9:07:07 AM PST by Ken522
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To: brivette

Navy/Air force if he wants to do technical stuff. Make sure that what ever deal he makes with the enlister he gets it in writing.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 9:07:09 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: brivette

...except for the fact that I worked with a small boatload of Navy folks on a recent tour to Afghanistan...


6 posted on 12/26/2011 9:07:40 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: PUGACHEV
All of the services are positive - they are simply different in terms of mission, history, and some service culture.

It depends on what he wants to do, and what service he wants to be a part of.

Have him go on the services website, explore what missions they perform, and talk to others already in the service about specific jobs he might want to make his career.

As far as the DWI goes, tell him to never lie about it, but be truthful.

I am not certain, but I think he can certainly overcome that.

7 posted on 12/26/2011 9:08:00 AM PST by SkyPilot
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My first choice would also be the senior service as the most intellectually rigorous and scientifically oriented of the services. The fields of specialization is extremely broad including land, sea, air, under the sea, space, radio, radar etc. In other words, if he learns a skill in the Navy it is more likely to be something useful in the civilian world upon his discharge.

He's likely to stay warmer, dryer, cooler, and be better fed. The uniform doesn't hurt with the girls either.

Good luck!


8 posted on 12/26/2011 9:08:28 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: PUGACHEV
His interests are ice hockey, video games, and girls, in that order.

Man, times have changed.

9 posted on 12/26/2011 9:08:55 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: PUGACHEV
He has no particular work-related skills or aptitudes

I don't believe that.

Send him to the US Sub Fleet, they will find his aptitudes.

He sounds as if he is pretty level headed, he may just need something to be proud of.

You may also see if the USN has CT ratings available. If so he could volunteer for sub service as a Direct support element.

Barring that, I would look to the Airforce or the Marines. Airforce is great for skills, Marines are great for building mental acumen.

That's my 2 cents

10 posted on 12/26/2011 9:09:16 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: PUGACHEV; Travis McGee

BTTT


11 posted on 12/26/2011 9:09:28 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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1) DWI is an easy work around. The recruiter will work with him on that.

2) He needs to follow his passion. For instance, if he has a love for airplanes. Then I would suggest Air Force or Navy.
Only HE can decide this.

Good luck!

12 posted on 12/26/2011 9:09:52 AM PST by Sprite518
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,,, looking at the same issue for a bored 16 yo two years from now...have him take as many free personality/career tests which give an idea of aptitudes and then look for a guaranteed training school in that area, even if he doesn’t love it, knowing a trade will allow him to pursue what he does love in free time. Also suggest the small book Strength Finder by Gallup which helps him hone in on strengths to be sharpened and will are help him to shine as a star in an area where he has skills and interests, I think it runs $20, and the testing is online with a key from the book. I would suggest looking at Air Force and Navy and getting the most technical training possible, then you are less likely to get RIF’d in the distant future of smaller military footprint...
Good luck,

ymmv


13 posted on 12/26/2011 9:10:38 AM PST by ElectionInspector (Molon Labe...)
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To: central_va
Man, times have changed.

They sure have. In the '60s, my interests were girls, roller hockey, and ham radio. In that order.

/johnny

14 posted on 12/26/2011 9:11:29 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: PUGACHEV

Marines - no, if he doesn’t already want to be a marine he probably wouldn’t have the motivation to make it through basic

Army - Maybe, does he like to play in the dirt? Some good technical training in the Army but also a lot of more generic army stuff.

Air Force - maybe, although the DWI will limit his choices. Good technical training but also a fair amount of playing in the dirt.

Navy - Maybe, does he like the water? Good technical training but will be away from home a lot.


15 posted on 12/26/2011 9:12:52 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PUGACHEV
What does he ultimately want to do with his life, career-wise? If he can find training for his career in the military, my top two choices are USMC and the U.S. Navy. He needs to find out what he wants to do and go visit either of those recruiters and get that job classification guaranteed in writing from them.

I spent eight years in the Navy and got great job training, which I used to further my civilian career and I traveled all over the world. I enjoyed every place I was stationed, I still miss my shipmates and I sometimes wish I'd stayed for the full 20. Serving my country has been the greatest honor of my uneventful life.

16 posted on 12/26/2011 9:12:53 AM PST by rabidralph
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Tell him to investigate his likes and dislikes. (Land, sea, air, flying, airplanes, boats, etc.)

The military will give him a battery of tests to find out what field of expertise suits his aptitudes, abilities and personality. The tests, as far as I know, are pretty standard throughout the military. (ASFABS ?)

Any old boatswain’s mate will know all about that stuff.

(As far as prior DWI, unknown.)

(Good luck and Godspeed.)


17 posted on 12/26/2011 9:13:04 AM PST by ripley
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What I told my nephew, who wanted to go Army like his uncle(me), be hardcore and go Marines, but your candy-behind better go Air Force, with no offense meant to the Air Force Personal, it’s just was my conception on basic training several years ago.

And on second thought I now advise the younger folks, go get a 2 year college degree, and then if you still want to go in the service, go. Then, if and when you get out you’ll only need 2 more years of college for a 4 year degree.

Good luck gentlemen, and thank God there are brave men and women who do serve!


18 posted on 12/26/2011 9:13:11 AM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: PUGACHEV
I was a Naval Officer and have observed many different enlisted ratings. The easiest are the technical ratings. They go in as E-3's, come out of school a senior E-4, never having been to sea. They get to E-5's real easy. Things may have changed but that is what I saw. Oh, did I tell you about the re-enlistment bonuses?

The only problem the politics are getting real bad. Add faggotry to the mix and I think I would pass the whole deal now. I couldn't work for a CO that was an out of the closet queer. I'd resign.

19 posted on 12/26/2011 9:14:00 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ElectionInspector
knowing a trade will allow him to pursue what he does love in free time.

Darn Good Advice.

20 posted on 12/26/2011 9:14:24 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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