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Jerusalem stone carvings baffle archaeologists: The carvings in the The City of David
3 News / APTN ^ | Wednesday, December 7, 2011 | unattributed

Posted on 12/12/2011 4:33:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Archaeologists have discovered mysterious stone carvings at an excavation site in Jerusalem. The carvings - which were engraved thousands of years ago - have baffled experts.

Israeli archaeologists excavating in the oldest part of the city discovered a complex of rooms with three "V" shapes carved into the floor. Yet there were no other clues as to their purpose and nothing to identity the people who made them.

Some experts believe the markings were made at least 2,800 years ago and may have helped hold up some kind of wooden structure. Others say an ancient people may have held ritual functions there.

The purpose of the complex is another aspect of the mystery.

There are straight lines on the walls and floors - something archaeologists see as evidence of careful engineering. The markings are also located close to the city's only natural water source - the Gihon spring - suggesting they may have had an important role.

Eli Shukron, a co-director of the project that found the markings, said they were a "little bit" mysterious.

"It's something that is here on the floor in this room from the First Temple period and we don't know yet what it means," he added. The First Temple period refers to a period in the ancient city beginning in the 10th century before the Christian era.

With experts unable to come up with a theory about the markings, the archaeologists posted a photo on Facebook and asked for suggestions.

Opinions ranged from the thought-provoking - "moulds into which molten metal could have been poured" - to the generic - "ancient Hebrew or Egyptian characters".

(Excerpt) Read more at 3news.co.nz ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: cityofdavid; godsgravesglyphs; jerusalemcarvings; letshavejerusalem
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Jerusalem stone carvings baffle archaeologists

1 posted on 12/12/2011 4:33:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
If these were arrows pointing to colossal statues of David and Solomon, complete with captions like "This one is David, This one is Solomon", there are morons who would publish a series of papers over their remaining years attempting to show that these were made by Canaanites.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 12/12/2011 4:36:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Again, they have no clue.

Probably used to hold up tables or other objects, this could have been a fast food place for all we know.


3 posted on 12/12/2011 4:42:44 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv

V is for “Victory”, “Vendetta”, and “Victoria’s Secrets”.

We Jews always love a good choice.

My “V” would be “Victoria Principal” with a sidebar “V” as in “Va, Va, Va Boom!”


4 posted on 12/12/2011 4:55:09 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: GeronL
Probably used to hold up tables or other objects, this could have been a fast food place for all we know.

I know I am going to get flamed for this, but I think it might have been Chinese Take-Out.

5 posted on 12/12/2011 4:59:27 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist)
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To: VRW Conspirator

lol. That is as much a possibility as anything else at this point.


6 posted on 12/12/2011 5:01:39 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv

Giant bird footprints?


7 posted on 12/12/2011 5:01:56 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: SunkenCiv

Part of an old game of some sort?


8 posted on 12/12/2011 5:01:56 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Reasonable comment:

"Looks like a baffle, a barrier that can be penetrated but reduces the speed of entry. I like the idea that panels of some kind were inserted in the slots. Baffles are flow directing vanes or panels. Useful for keeping out invaders, corraling livestock, or even for controlling the movement of air or even light and sound. Until they find some supporting artifacts, the specific use will be uncertain."

Could it have been a flow and direction control for an aqua duct? Timbers in the slots and a movable gate from the post hole? Or like here in TX a cattle chute.

9 posted on 12/12/2011 5:15:48 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Winstons Julia

It looks to me as if the angular structures were used to seperate interlopers and the clear areas the shootIng lanes.


10 posted on 12/12/2011 5:15:56 PM PST by texmexis best
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To: GeronL

LOL! I had a Jewish friend of mine who told me that Chinese Take-Out was actually developed by Herb Lebowitz, from the Bronx. And, his nephew Lyman came up with the fortune cookie. LOL


11 posted on 12/12/2011 5:22:01 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist)
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To: VRW Conspirator

I am pretty sure the fortune cookie was born in San Francisco early in the 1900’s as a gimmick.


12 posted on 12/12/2011 5:31:13 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv

Alpha and Omega?


13 posted on 12/12/2011 5:32:52 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: SunkenCiv

Probably used in conjunction with some sort of wooden structures placed in the slots for measuring ephahs of grain in a standardized manner for delivery to the priests or the king.

People delivering ephahs of grain would want to know that there was a standard way of measuring what they owed or offered, and this may have served that purpose.

Because this was inside a building it probably did not concern animal sacrifice.


14 posted on 12/12/2011 6:04:24 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: SunkenCiv

It is perfectly in line with the then ISO 800 BC Compliant standards for pointing at every day objects in the room...Door, window, table, emergency exit and so on.


15 posted on 12/12/2011 6:05:16 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: SunkenCiv


It`s a giant counterfeiting operation.

16 posted on 12/12/2011 6:24:42 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: HereInTheHeartland

17 posted on 12/12/2011 6:34:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Meet the New Boss; SunkenCiv
Probably used in conjunction with some sort of wooden structures placed in the slots for measuring ephahs of grain in a standardized manner for delivery to the priests or the king.

Best illustration* of what I mean that I could find.

I KNOW I've seen sack holders that had an upright, with a pair of angled struts on the bottom to support it, and another above. (They were metal; these would be wooden, so probably would have a smaller post on each front corner.) A gunnysack was hung over the upper struts U lipped over the rear upright joint; the bottom seam rested on the floor.

One person stood at the 'open' end of the V-base, and held the top-front of the sack taut, while it was being filled, then the top of the sack was flipped off the support, and tied or sewn shut.

The floor notches would keep the stand from both "walking" as sacks were filled; and from splaying.

The legs of the V notches in the floor (judging from the man's lower legs/lower arms) appear to be a popular guesstimate of a cubit.

The way they are placed, it looks like it would be convenient for one person to stand between the apexes, and verify how much was in each, as they were filled. The offset would keep said overseer out of the way of the fillers.

*It is an Indian hand operated, portable grain cleaner.

18 posted on 12/12/2011 7:10:30 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ve read a lot of archaeology magazines and it seems that everything they find was used in some fashion in a religious ritual. It’s rarely a kitchen or a plain old pot or bedchamber, etc.
Not sexy enough for the donors, I reckon.


19 posted on 12/12/2011 7:31:30 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Interesting.

If the guesses as to dates in the article are correct, it could be a tax collection station for the Kingdom of Judah.

It may also have been used to collect tribute from conquered peoples. King Jotham of the Kingdom of Judah conquered the Ammonites and collected from them ten thousand kors of wheat and ten thousand kors of barley. A kor was ten ephahs.

There must have been collection points and measuring equipment for receiving the taxes and tribute.


20 posted on 12/12/2011 8:49:23 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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