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Will the 'Perfect Candidate' Be Chosen at a Deadlocked Convention?
Self | December 3, 2011 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 12/03/2011 4:40:48 AM PST by PJ-Comix

I remember all the contention going on here when Harriet Miers was selected by Pres. George W. Bush to become Supreme Court Justice. I pretty much stayed out of the heated arguments going on BUT in the end it all worked out when Bush withdrew Miers' name and nominated Samuel Alito.

Will something similar happen next year in the selection of the next GOP Presidential candidate? Perhaps IF the convention is deadlocked. For the past few months we've had new heros who have faded to be replaced by even newer heros who have also faded. EVERY candidate proposed seems to have fatal flaws (although I can't even remember the "flaw" of Bachmann) that caused their popularity to plummet. Perry's entrance into the race was hailed by many but he soon plummeted due to his horrible debate performances. Then came the rise of Herman Cain who might take himself out of the race this weekend. The latest flavor of the moment is Newt Gingrich but now he has his severe critics who claims he is unelectable...or should be.

So what who do we finally end up with? It is my contention that we might end up with the person that many have said would be the strongest candidate yet he is not running. I won't name the person but he/she is a solid conservative with a lot of political experience and a great speaker who would be a slam dunk winner in November.

Perhaps you have your own favorite candidate who is not running. In any case I am hoping for a deadlocked convention for two reasons. One is that it would open the possibility this person would be nominated...and ultimately defeat Obama. The other is that a deadlocked convention would be INTERESTING to watch. For about 50 years the nominee at the convention was pretty much known in advance. However, if there were some fireworks at the convention, it would make some very interesting viewing...and I don't think it would harm the eventual nominee.


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I don't want to see any clear winner. A deadlocked convention is what might select the "perfect" candidate. Of course such "perfection" is a myth. Folks in 1980 even worried that Ronald Reagan was "too old" to govern or was "unelectable" as another Goldwater. Neither proved to be true.
1 posted on 12/03/2011 4:40:58 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
no, Palin is not going to the nominee. She said she isn't running.
2 posted on 12/03/2011 4:43:33 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: PJ-Comix

Whenwhenwhen will we EVER learn to DECIDE THE ISSUES FIRST—then and only then find our candidate??

This way we never would tolerate the flood of Illegals—Sharia, never have ‘COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM’............


3 posted on 12/03/2011 4:46:02 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters. Let the dead rest in peace.)
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To: Flintlock

We know the issues already but we need a candidate who can WIN and put them into effect.


4 posted on 12/03/2011 4:52:31 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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To: PJ-Comix

There’s always talk of a brokered convention at this stage of an open presidential primary.

Per usual it is highly unlikely.


5 posted on 12/03/2011 4:55:07 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: PJ-Comix; Envisioning; waterhill

Ah, if only we could reincarnate Reagan.


6 posted on 12/03/2011 4:55:11 AM PST by ixtl ( You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Flintlock

“Compassionate Conservatism is a croc.
Just a sporty way of saying lets go along and get along.
Less gub mint involvement in every aspect of our life is needed


7 posted on 12/03/2011 4:58:44 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) No RINO's)
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To: ixtl
Ah, if only we could reincarnate Reagan.

That thought has crossed my mind many times.

8 posted on 12/03/2011 5:02:09 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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To: PJ-Comix

No.

Put down the bong.


9 posted on 12/03/2011 5:09:04 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

And IF there is a deadlocked convention next year, will you pick up the Bong? You might have to pay a visit that Oakland store on “Weed Wars.”


10 posted on 12/03/2011 5:16:37 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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The problem with a potential brokered convention is that the result might be a Jeb Somebody.

That would be even worse than the current contenders. First, we still have the taint from the last ‘Somebody’ and Second, we don’t need any more family dynasties — EVER.

Romney continues to flounder around 20%. He can’t seem to get much more traction, even as the #1’s fall by the wayside.

Gingrich, the current #1 flavor, is the most beltway insider in recent history. Washington is part of the problem. Gingrich is part of Washington and has been for 2 decades. Ergo, Gingrich is part of the problem in Washington. The big problem with Gingrich is that one never knows which side he is going to be on. One issue may result in a couch photo-op with Pelosi, another might be a Contract with America, and another might be some under-the-table stuff that could result in another ethics investigation. Gingrich is a toss-up, and that is scary.

Santorum and Huntsman need to stay tuned. They could still have their opportunities as #1 Flavor of the Week.

[Even with record lows, Obama still hovers round 49% with his base. As we saw Thursday, the FED can do a lot of numeric manipulation to make both the jobs and economics numbers look good by next fall. After nearly a year of MSM/Dem rehabilitation and resurrection, Obama will be a tough incumbent by next November.]


11 posted on 12/03/2011 5:22:54 AM PST by TomGuy
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The era of deadlocked conventions is over, because the leadership of both parties realized that by controlling the convention rules committee, they could dictate who the candidate would be.

In turn, this message is then sent out to the critical state parties, to insure they anoint the chosen one, which can be told ahead of time with a delegate count.

At this point, I’m pretty sure that the party leaders have chosen Romney to be the candidate, so his instructions are to just remain quiet, say nothing particularly controversial, and let the other candidates thrash around.

If any of them get too far ahead, then they will get critical party support weakened, and the Republican spin doctors, like Karl Rove, will actively undermine them.

When the convention rolls around, only Romney supporters will get to give the prime time speeches, and anyone else will be shoved to late night slots.

They also want to avoid any fiasco as what happened to the Democrats when Tip O’Neil took the podium, read off unpopular resolutions, and ignored the overwhelming “No!” from the crowd before declaring that “in the opinion of the chair, the ‘Aye’s’ have it.”

At this point, the only chance any other candidate has is for either Romney to horribly screw up, his funding to dry up, or the rank and file so profoundly rejecting him that the leadership chooses some other RINO.

Conservative? Oh, heck no. The leadership would prefer a radical leftist Democrat president to a conservative. Reagan was a fluke, and they bitterly hated every minute of his presidency.


12 posted on 12/03/2011 5:23:23 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Totally off -topic - but interesting.

Three recent Presidents who were abandoned by their fathers as infants/toddlers and raised by step-fathers.

Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton and B.Obama.

Newt would be the fourth.


13 posted on 12/03/2011 5:24:06 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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Correction - Bill Clinton’s father died before he was born.

(red face)


14 posted on 12/03/2011 5:27:47 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Palin?


15 posted on 12/03/2011 5:28:03 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Flintlock

“Whenwhenwhen will we EVER learn to DECIDE THE ISSUES FIRST—then and only then find our candidate??”

When the people decide they must participate at the grassroots level and go back to using the convention system instead of the primary system.


16 posted on 12/03/2011 5:31:47 AM PST by ngat
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To: truthfreedom

Ron Paul will get delegates. And will likely stay in the race as long as he’s getting delegates. Which will certainly complicate things, increasing the likelihood of any interesting convention scenario.


17 posted on 12/03/2011 5:32:36 AM PST by truthfreedom
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I think with some confidence Romney will not win the primary.

I think Newt is viable, but personally I really just want to see any kind of "debate" with zero ... or whomever.

I think Santorum is being given short shrift because he wanted to maintain a majority and Michelle is ... I'm sorry to say this ... a woman, and after having ONE culture shock that hasn't been good, I don't think America will vote for a woman.

Cain should stay in the race for no other reason than to polarize the race baiting the democrats are guilty of. The talk shows and news/pundits wouldn't be able to sit still if Herman stays in ... they'd internally hemmorhage.

I don't know what to think of Perry, but I'd take him over Romney any day.


When it's all said and done, I think we will have a clear candidate from the primary

18 posted on 12/03/2011 5:37:20 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“They also want to avoid any fiasco as what happened to the Democrats when Tip O’Neil took the podium, read off unpopular resolutions, and ignored the overwhelming “No!” from the crowd before declaring that “in the opinion of the chair, the ‘Aye’s’ have it.”

What fiasco happened when the Speaker of the House pulled that on the Democrat Delegates? Did they rush the podium and tar-and-feather the old coot?


19 posted on 12/03/2011 5:40:43 AM PST by ngat
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If the GOP gets their way and Mittens is chosen because he is next, then it will be interesting to see the collective conservative reaction.
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I will not vote for a RINO and if obama is reelected it is the fault of the GOP not me. Both parties are steering us toward socialism, one party is just driving faster than the other. If obama is reelected then I can fight the revolution that brings him down and reestablishes our republic. If RINOs are elected then that revolution will take place sometime in the future. My son is three and my daughter is three months. If RINOs are elected then they have to fight that revolution. I'd rather do the fighting for them and re-secure their liberties.
20 posted on 12/03/2011 5:41:44 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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