Posted on 11/30/2011 7:48:10 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
The smear campaign against Herman Cain is the exact same kind of smear campaign the media ran against Jack Ryan. Had Jack Ryan not been taken out, we would never have had a Senator Obama, and without a Senator Obama we would never have had a President Obama.
Ryan married actress Jeri Ryan in 1991; together they have a son, Alex Ryan. They divorced in 1999 in California, and the records of the divorce were sealed at their mutual request. Five years later, when Ryan's Senate campaign began, the Chicago Tribune newspaper and WLS-TV, the local ABC affiliate, sought to have the records released. On March 3, 2004, several of Ryan's GOP primary opponents urged release of the records.[5] Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released. On March 16, 2004, Ryan won the GOP primary with 36 percent to 23 percent against Jim Oberweis who came in second.[6] Obama won the Democratic primary, with 53 percent to 23 percent against Dan Hynes, who came in second.
On March 29, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider ruled that several of the Ryans' divorce records should be opened to the public, and ruled that a court-appointed referee would later decide which custody files should remain sealed to protect the interests of Ryan's young child.[7] The following week, on April 2, 2004, Barack Obama formally established his position about the Ryans' soon-to-be-released divorce records, and called on Democrats not to inject them into the campaign.[8] The Ryan campaign characterized Obama's stance as hypocritical, because Obama's alleged backers had been emailing reports about the divorce records prior to Judge Schnider's decision.[8]
In May 2004, two polls were conducted statewide where the Chicago Tribune poll found Ryan trailing Obama 52% to 30% [9] while the Sun Times reported that he was trailing Obama 48 percent to 40 percent in the U.S. Senate race, according to a new Daily Southtown poll of 500 likely Illinois voters [10] [11] On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had asked her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[12][1]
The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]
Prior to release of the documents, Ryan claimed he had told leading Republicans that the divorce file could cause problems for his campaign.[13] After the documents were released, GOP Chair Judy Baar Topinka said of Ryan's comment "It may have been somewhat misleading."[14] Topinka said after the June 25 withdrawal that Ryan's "decision was a personal one" and that the state GOP had not pressured Ryan to drop out.[15][16] Ryan's campaign ended less than a week after the custody records were opened, and Ryan officially filed the documentation to withdraw on July 29, 2004. The same party leaders who called for Ryan's resignation chose Alan Keyes as Ryan's replacement in the race; Keyes lost to Obama, 27% to 70%.
You evaded it like a sniveling weasel.
And now will come the outright lie.
Stalking me still, eh?
I just can not stand with him, if he is an adulterer. Can’t.
His own statement seems to confirm that he is:
“Mr. Cain has been informed today that your television station plans to broadcast a story this evening in which a female will make an accusation that she engaged in a 13-year long physical relationship with Mr. Cain. This is not an accusation of harassment in the workplace – this is not an accusation of an assault - which are subject matters of legitimate inquiry to a political candidate.
“Rather, this appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults - a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public. No individual, whether a private citizen, a candidate for public office or a public official, should be questioned about his or her private sexual life. The public’s right to know and the media’s right to report has boundaries and most certainly those boundaries end outside of one’s bedroom door.
“Mr. Cain has alerted his wife to this new accusation and discussed it with her. He has no obligation to discuss these types of accusations publicly with the media and he will not do so even if his principled position is viewed unfavorably by members of the media.”
I certainly do NOT agree with the statement that “private sexual life” is not the public’s right to know”. Many a politician and President have fallen because of that kind of behavior. This statement sounds like it came from BJ clinton! We have already been down this road with clinton, and I do not want to go there again!
Oh wait, not ***everyone*** was gloating over the Cain smear on the other thread.
Only you.
I wonder if maybe you might not feel more at home on DU? When your reaction to hearing Cain described as a conservative is the mocking, puerile “BWAHAHAHA!”, then DU could well your more natural habitat. They react the exact same way to hearing a man defended as a ‘good conservative’—and it’s equally disgusting and childish there as it is here.
We are electing a politician.
Politicians are, by definition, people with profound character flaws.
Holding our flawed politicians to a higher standard than we hold the enemy's flawed politicians guarantees they win.
You're evidently good with that.
How true. How true.
Yep, a prime example was Mark Steyn yesterday when he subbed for Rush. He spent a solid 30 minutes childishly berating Herman Cain. His stock went down 5 notches in my eyes yesterday.
We are not electing the Pope.
We are electing a politician.
Politicians are, by definition, people with profound character flaws.
Holding our flawed politicians to a higher standard than we hold the enemy’s flawed politicians guarantees they win.
You’re evidently good with that.
So you want another professional politician, eh?
Seems pretty SMRT.
No Newt he, an Axalotel!
“The Axolotl is a “perennibranchiate” salamander...”
Leaving, of course, a trail of slime as he clambers out of his watery lair....
Bolivian salamanders aside, I did not find Herman’s Lawyer’s comments very reassuring.
I think Herman Cain is doing it very well on his own. 999I agree.
Long before all this Bimbo BS was churned out by the DNC garbage machine, I was posting criticisms of 999 here in FR.
I didn't like it when I first heard about it and the more I read and think about it the less I like it.
It's a bad idea from an inexperienced candidate who Obama will easily wipe the floor with in the general election.
Didn’t he do exactly that?
No stalk. I invited you to a thread where you could see how real conservatives react to liberal/Axelrod smears. You didn’t have to come here; you could have ignored the invitation, and that would have been the end of it.
I’m frankly sick of your vile, gloating attitude about the Cain smears. I don’t understand why you think FR is the right venue for that disgusting attitude. There are plenty of [liberal] sites that would welcome it. Why aren’t you posting on one of them?
Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemy’s politicians guarantees they win.
Exactly. Another disappointment from the conservative side.
We still have Bachmann and Perry. They can pull it out, if they work hard, educate themselves and fight back.
If Cain can be taken out with his sex scandal, so can Newt. As soon as the public is reminded of Newt’s 3 marriages and where he met the “future first ‘lady’”...it will be over for him as well. Newt has too many waiting scandals. Newt is the one Obama wants to run against.
So, how did your contempt save us from Ubama, or Barney Frank, or The Swimmer?
Which of the campaigns are you in the employ of, either as a volunteer or as a paid staffer?
Considering your most busy, almost exlusively anti-Cain posting history (upwards of 80% of your posts on Cain issue after Cain issue), during your five short months on FR during this election cycle?
Troll. Get out of my sight.
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