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Are we going to let Obama get rid of Herman Cain the same way he got rid of Jack Ryan?

Posted on 11/30/2011 7:48:10 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

The smear campaign against Herman Cain is the exact same kind of smear campaign the media ran against Jack Ryan. Had Jack Ryan not been taken out, we would never have had a Senator Obama, and without a Senator Obama we would never have had a President Obama.

Campaign demise

Ryan married actress Jeri Ryan in 1991; together they have a son, Alex Ryan. They divorced in 1999 in California, and the records of the divorce were sealed at their mutual request. Five years later, when Ryan's Senate campaign began, the Chicago Tribune newspaper and WLS-TV, the local ABC affiliate, sought to have the records released. On March 3, 2004, several of Ryan's GOP primary opponents urged release of the records.[5] Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released. On March 16, 2004, Ryan won the GOP primary with 36 percent to 23 percent against Jim Oberweis who came in second.[6] Obama won the Democratic primary, with 53 percent to 23 percent against Dan Hynes, who came in second.

On March 29, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider ruled that several of the Ryans' divorce records should be opened to the public, and ruled that a court-appointed referee would later decide which custody files should remain sealed to protect the interests of Ryan's young child.[7] The following week, on April 2, 2004, Barack Obama formally established his position about the Ryans' soon-to-be-released divorce records, and called on Democrats not to inject them into the campaign.[8] The Ryan campaign characterized Obama's stance as hypocritical, because Obama's alleged backers had been emailing reports about the divorce records prior to Judge Schnider's decision.[8]

In May 2004, two polls were conducted statewide where the Chicago Tribune poll found Ryan trailing Obama 52% to 30% [9] while the Sun Times reported that he was trailing Obama 48 percent to 40 percent in the U.S. Senate race, according to a new Daily Southtown poll of 500 likely Illinois voters [10] [11] On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had asked her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[12][1]

The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]

Prior to release of the documents, Ryan claimed he had told leading Republicans that the divorce file could cause problems for his campaign.[13] After the documents were released, GOP Chair Judy Baar Topinka said of Ryan's comment "It may have been somewhat misleading."[14] Topinka said after the June 25 withdrawal that Ryan's "decision was a personal one" and that the state GOP had not pressured Ryan to drop out.[15][16] Ryan's campaign ended less than a week after the custody records were opened, and Ryan officially filed the documentation to withdraw on July 29, 2004. The same party leaders who called for Ryan's resignation chose Alan Keyes as Ryan's replacement in the race; Keyes lost to Obama, 27% to 70%.


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We know the state-controlled media chooses our candidate. Are we going to let them do it again?
1 posted on 11/30/2011 7:48:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think Herman Cain is doing it very well on his own.

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2 posted on 11/30/2011 7:49:39 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION AT THE LINK to show your support for this fine man, Herman Cain, as he fights the left-wing smears against his campaign and character.

Stand With Cain PETITION


3 posted on 11/30/2011 7:50:06 AM PST by montag813
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To: Reagan69

So you plan on voting for someone that state-controlled media approves of, I take it?


4 posted on 11/30/2011 7:52:21 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Are we going to let Obama get rid of Herman Cain the same way he got rid of Jack Ryan?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sure looks that way. Conservatives are falling for the laimstream media’s BS once again.


5 posted on 11/30/2011 7:52:21 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Wanna keep livin' with your momma? Vote for Obama. Tired of the pain? Vote CAIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that Herman Cain is being slandered.


6 posted on 11/30/2011 7:52:37 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Reagan69

I’ll say it again, if Herman were a Democrat all these unsubstantiated allegations would be a resume enhancer. Until one of these women produces a semen stained dress, I believe it is all dirty Chicago-style politics at its best (or worst - depending on your point of view). In the words of James Carville, “Drag a $100 bill through a trailer camp and there’s no telling what you will find.”

The left will always tell you who they are most afraid of, by who they attack with the most ferocity... Cain terrifies the Obamaites. A strong conservative leader elected to the highest office in the U.S. could and likely would forever destroy the Democrat Party’s stranglehold on the black vote. The Democrat Party would cease to have any political clout for generations to come. I’ll vote for Herman Cain for exactly that reason....


7 posted on 11/30/2011 7:54:05 AM PST by 80sReaganite (Where is our next Ronaldus Magnus....?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cain is too black and too blunt. Both traits are out of favor in a media which decides which line you must stand in to get what’s coming.


8 posted on 11/30/2011 7:54:48 AM PST by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: 80sReaganite

Well said!


9 posted on 11/30/2011 7:55:00 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Wanna keep livin' with your momma? Vote for Obama. Tired of the pain? Vote CAIN!)
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To: 80sReaganite

Stated perfectly.


10 posted on 11/30/2011 7:55:47 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: 80sReaganite

But he is not a D.

If any of these are true it puts Mr Cain’s ability to understand the political realm in dire question.


11 posted on 11/30/2011 7:56:17 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Thermalseeker
Sure looks that way. Conservatives are falling for the laimstream media’s BS once again.

Those "conservatives" simply lack moral fiber.
12 posted on 11/30/2011 7:57:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Reagan69

The cliff is that way, lemming.


13 posted on 11/30/2011 7:58:31 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Oh and here's a funny:

http://www.zazzle.com/i_had_an_affair_with_cain_womens_t_tshirt-235058414225093802

I love it for it's sarcastic ability to put things in perspective and its pure entrepreneurial aspect.

GO CAIN!!!

14 posted on 11/30/2011 7:59:56 AM PST by 80sReaganite (Where is our next Ronaldus Magnus....?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; DTxAg

Not everyone on FR that is mocking, braying and crowing over these smears is a conservative. We have some Obots, I am convinced, who have been drawn to these slimes like flies to the sewer. It is as disgusting as anything I’ve seen on this site. Yes, there are good conservatives who are also slinging mud at Cain. But there are others w far more questionable motives.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2813851/posts?page=136#122


15 posted on 11/30/2011 8:02:18 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Obama won both the 2004 primary and general election for the US Senate after his challengers imploded when their divorce files were unsealed.

Before the '04 primary, Obama was running behind Blair Hull when reporters suddenly learned that Hull's wife had taken out a restraining order during their 1998 divorce and that he had reportedly threatened to kill her. The publicity killed his campaign; no charges were filed, however and Obama went on to win the primary with 52% of the vote.

And, by the way: David Axelrod's fingerprints were all over this little episode as well as the Jack Ryan affair.

16 posted on 11/30/2011 8:03:13 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The only opponent with any shot of beating the gangster zer0 is the one who will be willing to attack Barry on his ineligibility. Cain is the only one with any potential of having the guts to do it. Go Citizen Cain!


17 posted on 11/30/2011 8:03:22 AM PST by kreitzer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We know the state-controlled media chooses our candidate. Are we going to let them do it again?

Unfortunately, I think the writing was on the wall yesterday when Rush Limbaugh's guest host Mark Steyn spent the first 1/2 hour of the show ripping on Cain with sexual innuendo about all the women riding the "Cain Train" and other thinly disguised sex jokes. When even what should have been the "friendly" media stabs you in the back, it's over. They won. It's going to be Gingrich versus Romney, and the only reason that Gingrich is somewhat immune to being "Cain'ed" is that he has so much baggage already that when the media dumps something like the Fannie Mae thing, the public just shrugs and says that's just "Gingrich being Gingrich".

18 posted on 11/30/2011 8:03:28 AM PST by apillar
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Are we going to let them do it again?

Nope. But, I wish we could bust everyone of those media slugs that are dedicated to the demise of any Republican conservative. They just sit in their ivory towers with a rifle in their hand and pick conservatives off but ALWAYS give their communists/progressives/liberals a free ride. It disgusts me. Why are so many people in power/wealth so liberal when they always use the capitalist system to make their way? Grrrrrrr!


19 posted on 11/30/2011 8:03:45 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: 80sReaganite

Ditto!


20 posted on 11/30/2011 8:04:26 AM PST by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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