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Declassified Memo Hinted of 1941 Hawaii Attack
usnews.com ^ | Nov.13, 2011 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 11/29/2011 6:45:45 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Three days before the Dec. 7, 1941 Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, President Roosevelt was warned in a memo from naval intelligence that Tokyo's military and spy network was focused on Hawaii, a new and eerie reminder of FDR's failure to act on a basket load of tips that war was near.

In the newly revealed 20-page memo from FDR's declassified FBI file, the Office of Naval Intelligence on December 4 warned, "In anticipation of open conflict with this country, Japan is vigorously utilizing every available agency to secure military, naval and commercial information, paying particular attention to the West Coast, the Panama Canal and the Territory of Hawaii."

The memo, published in the new book December 1941: 31 Days that Changed America and Saved the World went on to say that the Japanese were collecting "detailed technical information" that would be specifically used by its navy. To collect and analyze information, they were building a network of spies through their U.S. embassies and consulates.

Historian and acclaimed Reagan biographer Craig Shirley, author of the just released December 1941, doesn't blame FDR for blowing it, but instead tells Whispers that it "does suggest that there were more pieces to the puzzle" that the administration missed. The 70th anniversary of the attack is next month.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 1941; 194112; 19411204; 19411207; hawaii; panamacanal; pearlharbor; westcoast
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To: achilles2000

“War warnings” were sent. All Pacific commanders knew that war was coming within days. Very few expected something as daring as the attack on Oahu. Admiral Kimmel believed that the Pacific fleet was safest at anchor in Pearl harbor.


21 posted on 11/29/2011 7:16:38 PM PST by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??? NO


22 posted on 11/29/2011 7:22:20 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: kearnyirish2

They knew after the Russo-Japanese War that they could fight; they knew from the war in China that they would. They just left the obsolete ships as bait.


Exactly. One has to look at what Japan gained from the attack. Virtually nothing. They sank battleships which were no longer really viable with the advent of the aircraft carrier and relatively useless fighter planes.
They didn’t get any carriers or fuel reserves. From a strategic standpoint it was a victory, minus the loss of life. Actually, genius, considering the results.


23 posted on 11/29/2011 7:23:29 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In late 1941, most knew that war with Japan was imminent, it’s just that no one knew when or where. Yes some decrypts may point to Pearl as the target but others pointed elsewhere. Meanwhile, the Japanese staged an excellent cover for the raid by making U.S. analysts believe the imperial fleet was at home in Japanese waters.


24 posted on 11/29/2011 7:24:28 PM PST by fso301
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To: driftdiver

“And what was he supposed to do about it? There was no support for a war until after the attack.”

Possibly spread our naval flee out into other locations.


25 posted on 11/29/2011 7:25:39 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: TwoSwords

Soon after Pearl Harbor Tokyo was bombed and they lost the battle of Midway; Yamamoto was right that they had to win in six months, or they would lose.

The Japanese were impressive for a 1930s army; they were completely outclassed in the 1940s. They looked all the more impressive because the Allies decided to finish off the Axis in Europe first. Even many of Australia’s troops were fighting the Germans in North Africa, leaving the US to defend Australia.


26 posted on 11/29/2011 7:28:56 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

Leads to speculation as to why exactly did the carries sail hours before the attack?


27 posted on 11/29/2011 7:30:28 PM PST by Rebelbase (Yes we Cain!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?


28 posted on 11/29/2011 7:32:07 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bush’s fault.


29 posted on 11/29/2011 7:33:34 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Rebelbase

I believe in coincidences and luck; I just look at the results of that war, compared to the goals 6 years earlier, and find it absurd. It really is marketed well, including some radio commercials about how conservatives should love some D-Daytour package (? - wierd); what was sold as getting a “toe-hold in Europe” completely ignores the earlier fighting in Italy (probably because they were against real units, led by Kesselring).


30 posted on 11/29/2011 7:33:54 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: plain talk

“Hawaii isn’t America, therefore we don’t attack. We shouldn’t have a base in Hawaii. That’s imperialism...” PaulBot Freak


31 posted on 11/29/2011 7:34:49 PM PST by BlackjackPershing ("The Business of America is Business"--President Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, the carriers were at sea and not a one was damaged. I believe several someones knew a lot. Unfortunately the ones in the path of the attack knew nothing until too late, and didn’t know it from our side


32 posted on 11/29/2011 7:39:07 PM PST by Figment
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To: Paradox

Pearl Harbor What did Roosevelt know and when did he know it. Its Franklins fault. You know the Metal on the Arizona could not have melted and blown up from puny 500Lb High Explosive bombs can’t melt the armor plating. Just Saying. SARC/;) I am now A Pearl Harbor Truther.


33 posted on 11/29/2011 7:51:10 PM PST by crazydad
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To: driftdiver

For as long as there is any question of attack. The public would not be opposed to protecting our troops and installations through being vigilant.


34 posted on 11/29/2011 7:53:24 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder how the usnews feels being scooped by about uh, 30 or 40 years?


35 posted on 11/29/2011 7:53:37 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Figment

My dad was in the code room. I was young when he spoke of it, but as I recall he spoke of an undelivered message that sat in a mail slot for three days. My impression from him was the information in that note was definitive, and that it was not normal for it to be just left there like that. We knew everything we needed to know to defend ourselves and didn’t. That’s who FDR has been to me my whole life.


36 posted on 11/29/2011 7:57:39 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: kearnyirish2

One thing people should realize is the reason Japan took the risk. Japan has few mineral deposits to support their industry. They went after Australia for that very reason.
Currently, China is going full-tilt to lock up minerals world-wide. If they can make the case to Japan that they can replace the US in that regard, at a substantial savings, we would face a huge military and status loss of enormous proportions. Japan is tired of their 10-15 yr recession, I’m sure. Their natural aggression may be running out of patience.


37 posted on 11/29/2011 7:59:14 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: Revolting cat!

I’m still waiting for Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate to be declassified.

TRANSPARENCY!


38 posted on 11/29/2011 8:12:46 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Since Obama's only challengers in 2012 are in the GOP debates, including him the next 15.)
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To: Chickensoup
Actually FDR was spoiling to get into the war and he backed the Japanese into a corner.

Is that you Ron Paul?

39 posted on 11/29/2011 8:19:44 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Nailbiter; BartMan1

ping


40 posted on 11/29/2011 8:20:24 PM PST by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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