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Chevy Volt Named Most Fuel Efficient Car of the Past 25 Years
FoxNews.com ^ | 11/21/11 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 11/21/2011 11:19:27 AM PST by ColdOne

The Chevrolet Volt has been named the most fuel efficient car of all time by the Environmental Protection Agency. Well, at least since 1984.

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To: ColdOne

Government Motors being praised by another government agency. How cute and utterly corrupt!


21 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:03 AM PST by avacado
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To: thackney

get your electric bill out and read it.


22 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:21 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: ColdOne

Technicalities aside...just saw one in a dealer showroom recently. I was looking at it from the front/side. I did remark to the person I was with that it looked like it was gas pedal down, foot on the brake, getting ready to leap. I’ve seen cars that look “fast”, but the Volt looks ready to “leap”. Power-train aside, a great looking vehicle.


23 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:57 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: TSgt
So $1.08 divided by 8 kWH equals 13.5¢/kWH

Reasonable price but you have to throw in the efficiency of the charger.

Meaning: Coal Power is cheap, even when stored in a battery.

24 posted on 11/21/2011 11:38:43 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Notwithstanding

My boss had one of those VWs in the day. He had to turn the AC off when he wanted to pass someone or go up a significant hill. LOL


25 posted on 11/21/2011 11:39:32 AM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: mamelukesabre

See post 19.

The $1.08 is within reason of most of the country.

Coal power is cheap.


26 posted on 11/21/2011 11:40:11 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
What do you pay for 16 kiloWattHours?

16 kWh isn't very expensive. For example, assuming you live in Utah, the cost per kWh is around 4.5 cents, as opposed to elsewhere where the costs run closer to 6.5 cents.

So, 6.5 cents x 16 = $1.04

27 posted on 11/21/2011 11:40:52 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Notwithstanding
And I lived in blizzard country and the heater worked quite nicely even when it was -10 outisde.


28 posted on 11/21/2011 11:41:39 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: ColdOne

I have a 1977 Ford pickup with a 460 engine that is more fuel efficient...it hasn’t run in over 10 years and has not used any fuel. I think what should be asked is what vehicle is most effective in getting people from point A to B in a reasonable period of time with a minimum of operator actions.


29 posted on 11/21/2011 11:42:51 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Hodar

I had to correct myself to 8kW since they only use half the battery capacity.


30 posted on 11/21/2011 11:43:43 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Hodar

Make that 8kWH


31 posted on 11/21/2011 11:44:07 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Something to consider...

The current replacement cost of the Volt battery is $8000.

The battery comes with an eight year / 100,000 mile warranty.


32 posted on 11/21/2011 11:47:04 AM PST by TSgt (whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive...it is the Right of the People to abolish it.)
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To: TSgt

I’m not claiming it is a good investment.

Only explaining the $1.08 to charge.


33 posted on 11/21/2011 11:50:32 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: TSgt

They’re misrepresenting (at least) the price of a kWh of electricity. I pay $.13 base price. But that goes up when you start using lots of electricity per month, which an electric car would certainly do in spades.

Tier1 - 477 kWh @ $0.13
Tier2 - 121 kWh @ $0.15
Tier3 - 139 kWh @ $0.23
Tier4 - 14 kWh @ $0.27
Tier5 - [the rest] kWh @ $0.30

And this is on my current bill after I’ve downsized. Last year in a large house and property they were gouging me at $0.54 on Tier 5. I was hitting >$700 per month electric bills in the summer.


34 posted on 11/21/2011 11:53:53 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Notwithstanding
I had one but the engine blew around 80,000 miles. (Why is a long story).

How long did yours last?

35 posted on 11/21/2011 11:53:53 AM PST by cerberus
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To: avacado
Not only is this praise utterly undeserved, but it conveniently ignores that:

(1) The Chevy Volt ultimately runs on gasoline (the backup after the batteries die) and coal or nuclear power (to recharge the batteries).

(2) Creates a huge toxic waste problem where none existed previously. The exotic battery packs are Hazardous Material and require proper handling during servicing, refurbishment, or disposal (including recycling or salvage).

(3) Will require replacement with a new or refurbished battery pack, costing thousands of dollars, after five years (or sooner). This is the equivalent, in a gasoline engine car, of replacing your engine with a new or rebuilt one after five years! (We all do that with our conventionally powered cars now, don't we?)

36 posted on 11/21/2011 11:53:59 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: ColdOne

Jesse James named Banker of the Year- by Cole Younger.


37 posted on 11/21/2011 11:54:45 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: MarineBrat

And that’s just the generation cost! There are many riders based on usage!


38 posted on 11/21/2011 11:57:12 AM PST by TSgt (whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive...it is the Right of the People to abolish it.)
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To: MarineBrat
But that goes up when you start using lots of electricity per month

That would depend on where you live and what plan you have.

My cost is actually fixed per kWH but varies with the cost of natural gas.

39 posted on 11/21/2011 11:57:47 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Notwithstanding

Honda made a neat version of the CRX called the CRX HF back in the last 80’s that got 40+ MPG using that “ancient” gasoline motor technology and without taxpayer funding.


40 posted on 11/21/2011 11:59:58 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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